was having problems not being able to ls, su as a regular user. Then I upgraded to XFree86-4.0.3-2, XFree86-100dpi, XFree86-server-4.0.3-2mdk and notice that the kde Konsole is now usable ie readable text. But you still can't su to root as the error file size exceeded still occurs. However, I was getting this error with rxvt and now I'm not. Greg
