Since i have gotten some wierd problems (libc related) i think i may need to do a mostly clean upgrade from 7.2 RB patched to 8.0 whatever. Here is the question How much do i need to remove to make sure the upgrade is done but not bother 1 Any of my MBRs 2 LILO 3 isapnp.conf and a few other hacked files I do have a spare partion to move the files from 3 but... Also is 8.0 worth doing the Cheapbytes thing yet??? Robert L Martin