I am not certain what I did, but I know I had to abort the building of the cooker db in MandrakeUpdate and ever since then the app (from 8.0b3) has been broken. All run attempts get a segfault or an empty database, and running under strace, the segfault was tracked to files not found in ../base (meaning /usr/lib/urpmi/../base ?) -- I copied the files from the CD /Mandrake/base to /usr/lib/base but that has not improved things, perhaps made them worse: it fails with open("/var/lib/urpmi/../base/hdlist.cz", O_RDONLY) (the file is not found) Can I rebuild/reinstall the tables needed by MandrakeUpdate/urpmi or are these tables built incrementally during the install? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Innovations Through Open Source Systems: http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)