The bad news.. the PCMCIA network problem is still there. Same messages: Cardmgr [783]: socket 1: NE2000 compatible ethernet Cardmgr [783]: executing: 'modprobe 8390' Cardmgr [783]: executing: 'modprobe pcnet_cs' Cardmgr [783]: executing: './network start eth0' Cardmgr [783]: + ./network: x: command not found Cardmgr [783]: + Determining IP information for ETH0 Cardmgt [783]: + failed, no link present. Check cable? Also, for some reason, can't get into KDE with a fresh install. Logging in causes the X server to reset, then asks to log in again. Had to go to a console and 'startkde', which FAILS because the X server is already running.. but DOES create the missing files and dirctories in the .kde directory. Also had to start GNOME this way before KDE would work? I have no idea what's missing, but needs to get debugged before going to any kind of release. Vinny