I was still having a strange problem with gyach chopping off characters. Seems it defaulted to Times(Adobe) for its font. This is a 2-byte font and does not display correctly on all systems (such as mine apparently). Times(URW) works fine, as I'm sure any other single-byte fonts would. The contrib maintainer may want to adjust the program's default font for use on a wider variety of systems. -- Digital Wokan Tribal mage of the electronics age [EMAIL PROTECTED]