-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 February 2003 07:03 am, kde wrote: > https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 > Thank you for responding to this finally. It is important to know your thinking on the matter. If I may offer some feedback on your comments.
> The new Mandrake "kdm" that removes the login text field, forces users to > login in only if they are listed, and makes loging in a two-stage process > is a big usability and security problem. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > There is no security problem. This feature is only available in low > security level. In high security level, you are able to enter all users you > want. There is no icon. And please note that only listed login are > displayed for ages in Mandrake Linux products. This is not a new feature. But I always had the ability to type in a user not listed. You have created an all or nothing situation. Select from list, or type in username. I have three main users that I want on the list. I also have several test users that I user to troubleshoot things. I don't want these test users to show up on the list, but I do want to be able to type in the username when necessary, not login, go to KDE Control Center, change security level, log back out and login again under the other user. Please don't discount this as a usability issue, it is severe > There is no usuability problem. This feature is made for beginners and > people who are not fluent with computers. Apple use this feature for its > login manager and it is a nice feature which make life easier for people > who just want to use a computer to perform a task. All people don't use > computers for pleasure. > Can you make it shake it's head no when the login fails like the Apple login manager does? That's cool :-) > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > I also want to express my displeasure with the "new" kdm. I have to add > root to the list, to login as root which I dont like at all. Yes I know, I > can CTRL-F[1-6], login as root, #startx ... but this sucks. In this form > KDM is just standing in my way. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Nobody should log as root. All you can do as root can be done from an user > account if you have root password. > > Root is not displayed in login managers for ages. > True, but kdm at least gives you the opportunity to type it in though. Like it or not, a lot of people are going to be pissed off by this, and you are going to take a lot of criticism for this feature. Lot's of newbies like to log in as root because they do not want to type the root password over and over again while they are learning. This may not be the way they should work, but it is the way they want to work. I agree with the premise that we should help them develop good habits, just be prepared for the criticism to come. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Is there any reason for the "new" design? > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > We think that KDM availalble in KDE 3.1 is not correctly designed. If you > don't think as us, please use original KDM. We don't remove it. You are > free to use it. > Thank you for providing the option. - -- Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VNE1Gu5uuMFlL5MRApA+AJ9X77xsb+c0/UOvlgtUTPs6AahtEACfbLB+ BcSm1NAHoqyKSrG6OCHhAfs= =Nw4r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
