I'm glad there's a way to translate all those little bumps into audio or text 
on a computer. As someone who got all blind and stuff in adulthood I had only a 
20% chance of learning it anyway, but adding in the occupational neuropathy 
from playing hand drums like congas and cajons I was somewhere below 0% chance.

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


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From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org] On Behalf 
Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:01 PM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks

I'm for that. Who do they think they are anyway.

On 7/11/2020 7:40 PM, Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark wrote:
> Ugly English Braille! Someone should tell BANA.
>
> Carol Ashland
> carol97...@gmail.com
> Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Jul 11, 2020 3:52 PM, WitKnit via 
> Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>> I have some cookbooks in my office but not many.  The thermoform books were 
>> great for us because if one managed to get something on one of the pages 
>> they could just be wiped off with a damp cloth.  As for UEB, I have a friend 
>> who calls it “ugly English Braille.”  Makes me grin every time it comes up.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Linda S. via Cookinginthedark 
>>> <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> A lot of those books that were in my office were on thermoform so they 
>>> held up pretty well. The binders and book covers got old and and started to 
>>> break. Those books were treasures, but they were not mine to keep, 
>>> otherwise I would have.
>>>
>>> Laura, I'm so sorry for your loss. This is so tragic, and you are in 
>>> my thoughts
>>>
>>> Please take care of yourself and I'm so glad that you have those memories 
>>> of good times together.
>>>
>>>> On 7/11/2020 3:37 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>>> I can read the UEB but don't ask me to write it. I don't like it either. I 
>>>> suppose many of us who have read braille forever don't tend to.
>>>> On a second topic, I just read through that list of cookbooks. Can you 
>>>> imagine having all of those in your library? If they were braille rather 
>>>> than electronic copies, I'd have to move out of my house in order to make 
>>>> room for all the braille books. I thought I had collected a lot of recipes 
>>>> over the years but mine are nothing compared to all the ones on that list.
>>>>
>>>> Pamela Fairchild
>>>> <pamelafairch...@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:52 PM
>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>> Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> in the seventies there was a lady who wrote a Mexican cookbook who was 
>>>> blind. Her name was Elena, and I can't remember the last name. She also 
>>>> had a cooking/kind of dear Abby radio show in Los Angeles. Does anyone 
>>>> know about her?
>>>>
>>>> Also, I wonder if we took a survey who would say they like Ueb? Maybe it's 
>>>> just the learning curve, or something, but I wish Braille hadn't changed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Everyone stay well and safe!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linda and Lara
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/11/2020 11:38 AM, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>>>> Hi Pauline,\
>>>>>
>>>>> You may be right about places feeling uncomfortable about sending braille 
>>>>> books out.
>>>>> I’ve gotten a couple of them from Dr. McGee’s Bible bus place in 
>>>>> California over the summer. But they are for you to just keep, not 
>>>>> something coming back to them if you are borrowing books as you would at 
>>>>> the Library.
>>>>> They do sell copies of some of the stuff but cannot sell it if it was 
>>>>> donated to them from someone.
>>>>> I like the cookbooks that they have from churches, those recipes are so 
>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>> They give you a month but you can ask for one more month if you can’t 
>>>>> finish with it right away.
>>>>> I record them on my Victor Stream.  That way I am not frazzled about 
>>>>> getting them back to them on time.
>>>>> I did get your message in the other place and will get back to you very 
>>>>> soon.
>>>>> Lora
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Pauline Smith via Cookinginthedark
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:52 PM
>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>> Cc: Pauline Smith
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Afternoon,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not heard of this Indiana resource Lora mentioned. Could 
>>>>> you post contact information for them, please?  You may not be 
>>>>> getting materials from them due to what's going on right now.  I 
>>>>> have heard from several correspondents that their libraries have 
>>>>> temporarily stopped sending out braille materials due to the 
>>>>> pandemic. One of the places that sends out monthly devotionals has done 
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> On another subject, I am with Lora as far as UEB. I can read it 
>>>>> but don't like it.  I wouldn't have taken courses to learn it if I 
>>>>> hadn't had the possibility of needing to teach it. Of course, I 
>>>>> don't have to worry about that right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pauline
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/11/20, Lora Leggett via Cookinginthedark 
>>>>> <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I can read the UEB, but don’t really have to like it, haha.
>>>>>> Hey, have any of you guys gotten braille cookbooks to borrow from 
>>>>>> the Braille Library and Transcribing Service in Indianapolis, Indiana?
>>>>>> I just started getting them somewherearound a year and a half 
>>>>>> ago. I think I had about 8 books, but have not received one for a couple 
>>>>>> months.
>>>>>> I also get Seeing It Our Way Magazine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:19 PM
>>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they would have to be put into UEB.  So somebody would have 
>>>>>> weeks and weeks of back-translator fun.  It would probably be 
>>>>>> easier to just retype them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> lorischarff--- via Cookinginthedark
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:51 AM
>>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>>> Cc: lorischa...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: [CnD] old braille cookbooks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think for NLS to reissue the books they would have to be put into UEB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a braille copy of "THE BRAILLE COOKBOOK COMPILED FOR THE 
>>>>>> BENEFIT OF THE BLIND HOUSEWIFE." By Marjorie S. Hooper, Braille 
>>>>>> Editor American Printing House for the Blind  and Mrs. Paul J. 
>>>>>> Langan Kentucky School for the Blind. It says it was embossed in 
>>>>>> 1948. This book is only one volume. It describes the labels in 
>>>>>> the introduction but, the book I have does not have any 
>>>>>> remaining. It goes on to say that you can purchase labels from 
>>>>>> APH or "the housewife can make her own with a slate and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stiless and gummb lables from the dime store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looked to see if I could locate the recipe  for BIG BOY but it 
>>>>>> does not seem to be in the index with that name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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