"Robert Link" <[email protected]> wrote:
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Arguments against privileging the competition narrative


>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:20:09AM -0400, Paul B. Hartzog wrote:
>> Ex:
>> Sports teams compete on the playing field,
>> but they cooperate to maintain the sport itself (social interest,
>> labor laws, etc.)
>
> Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes! Both competition and cooperation are
> examples of participation in some containing set, function in some
> larger system. It takes two to tango, and you can't compete with me if
> I don't participate. On the other hand, I can't stop you from competing
> with me if I do participate, even if my participation is intended and
> viewed by me as cooperation, as when a well-meaning liberal goes on the
> Bill O'Reilly show thinking a "fair presentation of facts" will be
> persuasive. Units that participate in a system can be seen to compete or
> cooperate, much as we can perform arithmatic calculations by adding
> positive numbers or subtracting negative ones.
>
> Pardon me riffing here.
>
> rl


Er, steady on, Robert! I'm not so sure it's simply a question of personal 
view as to whether one is competiting or cooperating. If you choose to 
participate as a player in a tennis game, for example, you are clearly 
competing.

What we need to distinguish is the difference between a competition on the 
one hand, and its holding framework on the other.

Any competition should occur WITHIN a holding framework of cooperation. The 
cooperative holding framework consists, in this case, of the Lawn Tennis 
Association (or the world equivalent), the rules of the game, height of the 
net, thickness and position of the lines, umpires, line-judges, etc, etc. 
That is the cooperative framework of governance WITHIN WHICH the competition 
of the game itself can then take place. So the players are really 
COMPETITORS not cooperators - no mistake! They are only cooperators in terms 
that they respect and uphold the outer holding cooperative framework of 
rules/governance.

Given a good and comprehensive cooperative governance framework, the 
competition is then likely to be CONstructive rather than DEstructive. Were 
the framework to be inadequate or to break down in some way (a biased 
line-judge, for example), the competition will become unfair and will turn 
DEstructive.

Another example of such a breakdown would be when some cells in one's body 
start reproducing independently of the body's DNA; i.e. of its governance 
system. If that happens, what you have is cancer.

Hope that helps.
cheers
John 



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