Massimo,

Sorry for the delayed response. Here are a couple of thoughts about
potential collaboration:

You say:

*Working on the Collaborative Activity Source Code for mapping the nodes in
the Ecosystem and their connections would be great as a collaboration: we
could use it to describe single projects (their activity) and the
collaborative activity of the Ecosystem as a whole.*

As you have probably gathered by reviewing the OpenKollab emails, we are
currently working on getting know projects in the Distributed Manufacturing
space and 'mapping' this space. What exactly it means to map this space will
be defined by what we do in the next while so ask me later ;-) Maybe your
methodology could add some value to what we are working on. Let me know if
you would like to explore this.

Another way that we might be able to collaborate is around the area of
collaborative intelligence and research. Part of the longer terms strategy
for OK will involved having research and analysis as a part of the OK
ecosystem. This is to say that we are very open to collaborating on the
development of a research and analysis group. Since you are already writing
books and developing a lot of proprietary intelligence, this might fit with
what we are doing.

Among other things, OK is very focused on building its communications
infrastructure and associated channels. This will allow ecosystem partners
(p2pdesign possibly) access to our networks, visibility etc.

Let me know what you think.

Suresh


On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Massimo Menichinelli <
[email protected]> wrote:

> OpenKollab is very project focused. We obviously recognize the value of
>> information and create quite a bit of it ourselves, but the primary
>> objective of the group is to bring about positive social change by
>> leveraging open collaboration principles to connect specific projects.
>>
>
> There are at least 3-4 books planned for openp2pdesign.org, one of them
> will be a collaboration with another organization. I see them as projects
> because as a designer I always think in terms of "projects" and, you know,
> they are my open source code, I give them for free and then I can get paid
> with services (mainly workshops or lectures). And I believe that knowledge
> is a tool too.
> For unstructured informations there is the blog and twitter, but books are
> projects for me.
>
>  /I am wondering if you think any of the specific processes that you have
>> identified/developed would apply directly to the work that we are doing?/
>>
>>
> I should study more OpenKollab and think about it, but I already think
> there's at least one easy thing you can use and it's using some specific
> tools/visualization for describing the projects and their collaboration.
> As with an Open P2P Design process one could co-design a collaborative
> activity, there is also a specific blueprint, an (open) source code for it I
> developed starting from Service Design and other fields. As for any
> blueprint or technical drawing it is useful for designing but also for
> analyzing and understanding any Open and Collaborative System/Organization.
> I will try soon to summarize in English and publish an introduction to this
> "Collaborative Activity Source Code" I've been defining, so you may
> understand it better.
>
>
>
>  With that in mind, we are interested in exploring collaboration
>> possibilities with your group if you are interested.
>>
>
> Actually openp2pdesign.org is only me right now but I'm working on
> creating a group and on having more time to work on it.
> Of course, yes, it will be great to collaborate but right now I don't have
> so much time. Let's keep in contact for this.
> Working on the Collaborative Activity Source Code for mapping the nodes in
> the Ecosystem and their connections would be great as a collaboration: we
> could use it to describe single projects (their activity) and the
> collaborative activity of the Ecosystem as a whole.
>
>  /Are there any projects that you are working on, or have been
>> contemplating, that might be worth talking about?/
>>
>>
> Oh yes! I need more free time, not ideas for projects! ;-)
>
> But yes, there is especially one idea that I've just started thinking about
> while preparing some Open P2P Design workshops in Asia.
> I think that the tools and softwares we have right now are not ready yet
> for collaborative Open Design projects. They are great for working with
> code, but it's not possible to reduce every design projects to just
> human-readable code, and even if we manage to do that, only very skilled
> professionals would be able to work and collaborate on it. And I want to
> have more people as possible involved in Open Systems and Open Design.
>
> During those workshops, students used Subversion (a Version Control System)
> and Trac (a Forge) for developing Open Design projects with the Open P2P
> Design methodology. And soon we realized that for design projects these
> tools are very limited; we don't need brand new tools, for the moment the
> only thing we need is having a Version Control System and Forge that work
> and show the diff and merge of binary files (images, CAD, 2D bitmap, 2D
> vector, 3D models) which is almost impossible right now.
> So it's just a matter of adding some functionalities to already existing
> open source Version Control Systems and Web-based Forges; I've been thinking
> about it since some months, and I briefly suggested the idea in my Media
> Ecologies presentation.
>
> This is a project that could be useful for everyone doing Open Design
> projects in a collaborative way, I would really like to start it (even using
> part of the Open P2P Design process to organize it) and I will need some
> coders of course, so this is a project that could be interesting for us.
> Just wait until I write down a proposal for the project, I'm very busy right
> now with the job and a lot of work in the backoffice of openp2pdesign.org,
> please just wait! :-)
>
>
> Let's keep in contact on these ideas, and don't forget to add OpenKollab to
> the OpenBusiness/NESTA/TheGuardian Open 100 competition!
> http://www.openbusiness.cc/open100/about/
>
> See you soon,
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
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>


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