Hey, you can always go to the coffee shop, surf the web and impress all
the other life-stylers out there with your slick machine, even though
you might have to buy a MacBook Air to keep with the times.
I have problems similar to what Bill described when I run coot (0.4.1
with OSX v5.2 and X 2.1.1). The computer never freezes entirely (knock
on wood), but coot is completely useless. Good think my Fedora Thinkpad
has forgiven me my betrayal. It is, in fact, quite happy mercilessly
spanking this shiny lifestyle machine of mine.
What I'm most annoyed about with all this X11 business is that there are
many places to get fixes from but no one has a solution. It's not
unlike trying to get a FireGL to run properly under linux, but not
exactly what you expect from a company that can't stop professing its
godlike superiority.
Let's see if 2.1.4 changes things for me in any way. If not, there's
always my beloved ThinkPad.
Andreas
hari jayaram wrote:
We just got our brand new leopard running mac pro , we have been having
frequent crashes and freeze ups as well
Leopard version : 10.5.2
X version: 2.1.4
Coot version:0.5.1
Intel Mac Pro
Most downright crashes where I had to resort to the power button came
when i was runing coot. When running ccp4i , it seems understandably
less taxing on X. But even with that I always have the gui windows bleed
through into other windows. Not to mention the fact that spaces is
entirely unuseable. To think that linux has had outstanding "spaces"
like multiple desktop functionality for years..
Just my rant against leopard and X and I agree with Bills
sentiment..makes me want to go back to gentoo-linux....but then we just
spent almost 3K on this machine and I am sure hoping these problems will
soon disappear
A willing guinea pig
Hari Jayaram
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Phil Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Bill
I've been using 10.5.2 plus the X11 2.1.4 update from the Xquartz
site, & I haven't had problems with freezing lately, I _think_ not
since this update. The main problem is that Exposé doesn't work properly
not much help ...
Phil
(looking at a white Easter outside the bedroom window)
On 23 Mar 2008, at 01:01, William Scott wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> I know I've asked before, but it is so frustrating to lose an hour
> of work, trying to convince myself that I won't get reamed this
> time. But I keep going back, like to some sort of abusive
> codependent relationship, to put it into California terms.
>
> I'm using a molecular graphics model building crystallography
> program called coot, but this happens with enough other X11
> applications that I don't think it is the fault of coot. Prior to
> OS X 10.5, I never ever had a problem with X11.
>
> If I try to resize a window while the program is loading, it is a
> guarantee that the Xserver will freeze. However, if I try to be
> real careful, I can start to get work done, but then when some
> window or pop-up menu appears, a half hour or an hour into a session
> of work, I'll get a random freeze.
>
> I'm running 10.5.2 on intel (but this happens on all my 10.5.2
> computers, ppc and intel) and the latest X11 from the update page,
> and when I sample the frozen processes I get this as output:
>
> <Sample of X11.txt>
>
>
> <x11_hosing.txt>
>
>
> My kids want to know why I swear at the computer so much. I'm almost
> ready to reformat the disk and install ubuntu linux.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Scott
>
>
>
>
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