Yes, it is coordinated to the CYS residues. So maybe it does need to be
shown as having links
I was just confused because links for covalent bonds look the same as for
coordinations.

W

On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 13:31, Eleanor Dodson <eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk>
wrote:

> But ZN IS coordinated to the CYS surely? and if you dont specify a LINK
> refinement will apply VDW repulsion to keep the atoms apart??
>
> E
>
> On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 13:30, Wendy Offen <wendy.of...@york.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just to clarify, I don't think there should be links from the Zn to the
>> cysteines. The Zn should just be a coordinated metal.
>> But there is a covalent link from DRG C2 to SG Cys417
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 13:19, Eleanor Dodson <eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *COOT problem first: or is it REFMAC ? *
>>> REFMAC outputs coordinates in both pdb and cif format. They are
>>> identical
>>> *This model has ZN linked to CYSs etc..*
>>> The PDB files provides the link records but the cif file does not.
>>>
>>> eleanor@wombat job_187 % grep -i link
>>> Job*181:*Model*from*refinement*PDB*format-coot-0allref.pdb
>>> LINK         OE2 GLU A 338                ZN    ZN A 701     1555   1555
>>> 2.020
>>> LINKR        C2  DRG A 702                 SG  CYS A 417
>>>  DRG-CYS
>>> LINKR       ZN    ZN A 701                 SG  CYS A 340
>>>  ZN-CYS
>>> LINKR       ZN    ZN A 701                 SG  CYS A 417
>>>  ZN-CYS
>>> LINKR       ZN    ZN A 701                 SG  CYS A 418
>>>  ZN-CYS
>>>
>>> But the only mention of ZN in the cif format is the actual coordinate.
>>> nolink definitions..
>>>
>>>
>>> eleanor@wombat job_187 % grep -i zn
>>> 181_hypba1-vbc75-an6906_ciffile_prosmart_refmac.cif-coot-0ref2.cif
>>>  HETATM 10117 ZN ZN   . ZN  A2 2 .   . . 2.0627321     25.812978
>>>  14.772831    1   68.493  ? ? ? ? ? +0 701 ZN  A ZN   1
>>>
>>>
>>> *There is also a di-sulphide mess. the cif output from COOT forces close
>>> SG to form unwanted SSBONDS. (Of course this may only happen because the ZN
>>> links are lost..) *
>>>
>>> *Here are the correct SG bonds as listed by distang - only contacts to
>>> the ZN*
>>> *(Note there is a file name problem too. distang on the Mac wont accept
>>> a file name with spaces in it...) )*
>>> wombat:job_187 eleanor$ cp
>>> /Users/eleanor/CCP4I2_PROJECTS/HypBA1-VBC75-AN6906/CCP4_JOBS/job_187/Job*format-coot-0allref.pdb
>>> junk.pdb
>>>
>>>  ###############################################################
>>>  ###############################################################
>>>  ###############################################################
>>>  ### CCP4 8.0.015: DISTANG          version 8.0.015 :         ##
>>>  ###############################################################
>>>
>>>   Logical name: XYZIN  File name: junk.pdb
>>>   PDB file is being opened on unit 1 for INPUT.
>>>
>>>
>>> radi S 1.2 Zn 1.5
>>>  Data line--- radi S 1.2 Zn 1.5
>>> end
>>>  Data line--- end
>>>   number of atoms input  5211
>>>   Searching from  5211 atoms    to  5211 atoms.
>>>      Atom I  Atom J   Dij                Sym TX TY TZ occ(i)*occ(j)
>>>  av_bi+bj
>>>
>>>
>>> *C  340 SG   A   Z  701 ZN   A      2.324 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 69.95 C  417 SG   A   Z  701 ZN   A      2.335 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>>   71.32 C  418 SG   A   Z  701 ZN   A      2.325 X,Y,Z
>>> 1.00   69.31*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the same calculation after coot refinement of the cif coordinates...
>>>
>>> wombat:job_187 eleanor$ distang xyzin
>>> /Users/eleanor/CCP4I2_PROJECTS/HypBA1-VBC75-AN6906/CCP4_JOBS/job_187/181_hypba1-vbc75-an6906_ciffile_prosmart_refmac.cif-coot-0ref2.cif
>>>
>>>   Logical name: XYZIN  File name:
>>> /Users/eleanor/CCP4I2_PROJECTS/HypBA1-VBC75-AN6906/CCP4_JOBS/job_187/181_hypba1-vbc75-an6906_ciffile_prosmart_refmac.cif-coot-0ref2.cif
>>> radi S 1.5 ZN 1.5
>>>  Data line--- radi S 1.5 ZN 1.5
>>> end
>>>  Data line--- end
>>>   Searching from  9962 atoms    to  9962 atoms.
>>>      Atom I  Atom J   Dij                Sym TX TY TZ occ(i)*occ(j)
>>>  av_bi+bj
>>> * C  340 SG   A   C  418 SG   A      2.051 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>>   70.77*
>>>  C  340 SG   A   Z  701 ZN   A      2.332 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 69.98
>>>
>>>
>>> * C  415 SG   A   C  417 SG   A      2.010 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>>   78.92*
>>>
>>>
>>>  C  417 SG   A   C  415 SG   A      2.010 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 78.92
>>>  C  417 SG   A   Z  701 ZN   A      2.373 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 71.32
>>>
>>>
>>>  C  418 SG   A   C  340 SG   A      2.051 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 70.77
>>>  C  418 SG   A   Z  701 ZN   A      2.324 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 69.27
>>>
>>>
>>>  Z  701 ZN   A   C  340 SG   A      2.332 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 69.98
>>>  Z  701 ZN   A   C  417 SG   A      2.373 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 71.32
>>>  Z  701 ZN   A   C  418 SG   A      2.324 X,Y,Z                   1.00
>>> 69.27
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this comprehensible??
>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>>
>>>

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