On 19/11/2018 5:04 pm, Kim Barrett wrote:
On Nov 19, 2018, at 1:31 AM, David Holmes <david.hol...@oracle.com> wrote:
Hi Kim,
On 16/11/2018 12:31 pm, Kim Barrett wrote:
On Oct 3, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Kim Barrett <kim.barr...@oracle.com> wrote:
I've submitted a JEP for
(1) enabling the use of C++14 Language Features when building the JDK,
(2) define a process for deciding and documenting which new features
can be used or are forbidden in HotSpot code,
(3) provide an initial list of permitted and forbidden new features.
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8208089
While there has been some discussion of this JEP here, so far only Mikael has
officially
reviewed or endorsed it.
I added myself as a Reviewer.
Thanks.
Regarding the timing of this JEP, integration in time for JDK 12 seems unlikely.
This doesn't strike me as a JEP that actually integrates anything. It wants to establish
a process by which future C++ features are accepted for use with hotspot. That's just
documentation on the OpenJDK wiki as far as I can see. The actual set of features and any
"vote" on them can happen any time after the JEP is approved. Any actual use of
those features can follow any time after that.
There is the integration of the build changes needed to enable the use of C++14.
Presently we explicitly specify C++98 (actually, gnu++98) for gcc.
We also presently permit the use of older versions of compilers that don’t
support C++14
(or even C++11) at all, or only partially. Those need to be dropped.
Even so those changes don't need to be put in place until we actually
need to start using a new feature. So I would still think we can
finalize the JEP independently of the subsequent code changes.
I think it is important that all the port owners buy into this.
At least one port (aix_ppc) presently seems to have no way to support this
change, because
the compiler being used is seriously deficient and appears to be languishing.
(It doesn’t even
support C++11, let alone C++14.) I think the community could (and in my
opinion, should)
chose to move ahead despite that.
Okay I've seen the mail on this - thanks.
Cheers,
David
If a new and adequate compiler is expected “soon” then
the community might choose to wait, or might proceed and let that port languish
until the new
compiler is available. I think that’s all part of the discussion that should
happen around the
targeting of this JEP. I hope this inadequate compiler on a relatively niche
platform won’t be
an indefinite blocker in this area.
