Hi Raffaello,

My concern is why the verification happens even without initialization in the 
test without mh.invoke() in the main(), which I don't think is covered or 
explained in the JVM Spec.
Put it in another way, my understanding is, when the class gets loaded, it is 
verified which doesn't necessarily lead to initialization, am I correct?

Best Regards
Cheng

-----Original Message-----
From: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev-r...@openjdk.java.net> On Behalf Of 
Raffaello Giulietti
Sent: March 17, 2022 8:35 PM
To: core-libs-dev@openjdk.java.net
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: When to initialize the method's class for 
MethodHandles.Lookup.findStatic()?

Cheng,

initialization is the last thing that happens because it's where user provided 
code gets executed.

This has always been this way, as long as I can remember. See the JVMS for the 
gory details.


Greetings
Raffaello


On 2022-03-18 01:21, Cheng Jin wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> 1) for the test with mh.invoke() in main(),  the log shows:
> [0.262s][info][class,init] Start class verification for: Test_1
> [0.262s][info][class,init] End class verification for: Test_1
> [0.263s][info][class,init] 282 Initializing 'Test_1' (0x0000000800c00800)
> [0.263s][info][class,init] Start class verification for: Test_2
> [0.263s][info][class,init] End class verification for: Test_2
> [0.272s][info][class,init] 366 Initializing 'Test_2' (0x0000000800c00a08) 
> <------
> 
> 2) for the test without  mh.invoke() in main(),  the log shows:
> [0.296s][info][class,init] Start class verification for: Test_1
> [0.296s][info][class,init] End class verification for: Test_1
> [0.297s][info][class,init] 282 Initializing 'Test_1' (0x0000000800c00800)
> [0.297s][info][class,init] Start class verification for: Test_2
> [0.297s][info][class,init] End class verification for: Test_2
> (Test_2 was verified but didn't get initialized)
> 
> The comparison above literally surprised me that the bytecode verification 
> happened prior to the class initialization, which means
> the class got verified at first even without initialization coz I previously 
> thought the initialization should trigger the verification rather than in the 
> reversed order.
> 
> Could you explain a little more about why it goes in this way?
> 
> Best Regards
> Cheng
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev-r...@openjdk.java.net> On Behalf Of David 
> Holmes
> Sent: March 17, 2022 7:46 PM
> To: Raffaello Giulietti <raffaello.giulie...@gmail.com>; 
> core-libs-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: When to initialize the method's class for 
> MethodHandles.Lookup.findStatic()?
> 
> Run with -Xlog:class+init=info to see the classes that get initialized and in 
> what order.
> 
> David
> 
> On 18/03/2022 5:53 am, Raffaello Giulietti wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> here's code that shows that initialization doesn't happen during
>> lookup but only upon invoking the method handle. (I'm on Java 17.)
>>
>> As long as the 2nd line in main() is commented, you don't see the
>> message "Test_2 initialized", which shows that the lookup doesn't
>> initialize Test_2.
>> When you uncomment the line in main(), the message will appear.
>>
>> So, as advertised, it's the invocation of the method handle that can
>> trigger initialization, not the lookup.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>> Raffaello
>>
>> ----
>>
>> import java.lang.invoke.*;
>>
>> public class Test_1 {
>>
>>       static MethodHandle mh;
>>
>>       static {
>>           try {
>>               mh = MethodHandles.lookup().findStatic(Test_2.class,
>> "testMethod", MethodType.methodType(int.class, int.class));
>>           } catch (NoSuchMethodException | IllegalAccessException e) {
>>               e.printStackTrace();
>>           }
>>       }
>>
>>       public static void main(String[] args) throws Throwable {
>>           System.out.println(mh);
>>           // System.out.println(Test_1.mh.invoke(0));
>>       }
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> public class Test_2 {
>>
>>       static {
>>           System.out.println("Test_2 initialized");
>>       }
>>
>>       static int testMethod(int value) { return (value + 1); }
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2022-03-17 20:38, Raffaello Giulietti wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> as far as I can see, the code should not even compile, as there's a
>>> static field in Test_1 which is initialized with an expression that
>>> throws checked exceptions (findStatic(..)).
>>>
>>> In addition, it seems to me that there's nothing in your code that
>>> reveals whether Test_2 has been initialized during the lookup. How
>>> can you tell?
>>>
>>> Finally, the method handle invocation in Test_1 will throw, as you
>>> don't pass any argument to a handle that expects one.
>>>
>>> Can you perhaps add more details?
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>> Raffaello
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2022-03-17 17:42, Cheng Jin wrote:
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> The document of
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>>>> _en_java_javase_17_docs_api_java.base_java_lang_invoke_MethodHandles
>>>> .Lookup.html-23findStatic-28java.lang.Class-2Cjava.lang.String-2Cjav
>>>> a.lang.invoke.MethodType-29&d=DwIDaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=X90f
>>>> 3XIRXAH8hbNam6bIUlWfF_qUAezL9ue7M7bFuPQ&m=RvhguidNJ90V-HK-3Ctl-kUZE5
>>>> cIfo_nt3_r8VZ0Fcc&s=tw_ph6oUkS0eCvzITWi9zEkarss5yNeHDrAIfvd3s3g&e=
>>>> in the Java API is ambiguous in terms of when to initialize the
>>>> method's class as follows (the same description as in other OpenJDK
>>>> versions)
>>>>
>>>> If the returned method handle is invoked, the method's class will be
>>>> initialized, if it has not already been initialized.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It occurs to me that the method's class should be initialized when
>>>> invoking the method handle but OpenJDK actually chooses to do the
>>>> initialization in lookup.findStatic() rather than in mh.invoke()
>>>> e.g.
>>>> import java.lang.invoke.*;
>>>>
>>>> public class Test_1 {
>>>>       static MethodHandle mh =
>>>> MethodHandles.lookup().findStatic(Test_2.class, "testMethod",
>>>> MethodType.methodType(int.class, int.class)); <-----------
>>>> Test_2.class gets initialized and verified.
>>>>
>>>>       public static void main(String[] args) throws Throwable {
>>>>           Test_1.mh.invoke();
>>>>       }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> public class Test_2 {
>>>>       static int testMethod(int value) { return (value + 1); } }
>>>>
>>>> So there should be more clear explanation what is the correct or
>>>> expected behaviour at this point and why OpenJDK doesn't comply with
>>>> the document to delay the initialization of the method's class to
>>>> mh.invoke().
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Cheng Jin

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