Hi,

That's really cool. It seems that Hadoop could work with SQL DBs like
Mysql with bearable time. I thought when inserting data to Mysql, the
expense of communication was always a big problem. You got a method to
reduce the expense.

Using Distribution Databases like HBase is another good choice. It is
based on Hadoop and HDFS, so there is no problem with communication
expense.



On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Ankur Goel <ankur.g...@corp.aol.com> wrote:
>
> hello hadoop users,
> Recently I had a chance to lead a team building a log-processing system that 
> uses Hadoop and MySQL. The system's goal was to process the incoming 
> information as quickly as possible (real time or near real time), and make it 
> available for querying in MySQL. I thought it would be good to share the 
> experience and the challenges with the community. Couldn't think of a better 
> place than these mailing lists as I am not much of a blogger :-)
>
> The information flow in the system looks something like
>
> [Apache-Servers] -> [Hadoop] -> [MySQL-shards] -> [Query-Tools]
>
> Transferring from Apache-Servers to Hadoop was quite easy as we just had to 
> organize the data in timely buckets (directories). Once that was running 
> smooth we had to make sure that map-reduce jobs are fired at regular 
> intervals and they pick up the right data. The jobs would then 
> process/aggregate the date and dump the info into MySQL shards from the 
> reducers [we have our own DB partioning set up]. This is where we hit major 
> bottlenecks [any surprises? :-)]
>
> The table engine used was InnoDB as there was a need for fast replication and 
> writes but only moderate reads (should eventually support high read rates). 
> The data would take up quite a while to load completely far away from being 
> near-real time. And so our optimization journey begin.
>
> 1. We tried to optimize/tune InnoDB parameters like increasing the buffer 
> pool size to 75 % of available RAM. This helped but only till the time DBs 
> were lightly loaded i.e. innoDB had sufficient buffer pool to host the data 
> and indexes.
>
> 2. We also realized that InnoDB has considerable locking overhead because of 
> which write concurrency is really bad when you have a large number of 
> concurrent threads doing writes. The default thread concurrency for us was 
> set to no_of_cpu * 2 = 8 which is what the official documentation advises as 
> the optimal limit. So we limited the number of reduce tasks and consequently 
> the number of concurrent writes and boy the performance improved 4x. We were 
> almost there :-)
>
> 3. Next thing we tried is the standard DB optimzation techniques like 
> de-normalizing the schema and dropping constraints. This gave only a minor 
> performance improvement, nothing earth shattering. Note that we were already 
> caching connections in reducers to each MySQL shard and partionining logic 
> was embedded into reducers.
>
> 4. Falling still short of our performance objectives, we finally we decided 
> to get rid of JDBC writes from reducers and work on an alternative that uses 
> MySQLs LOAD utility.
> - The processing would partition the data into MySQL shard specific files 
> resident in HDFS.
> - A script would then spawn processes via ssh on different physical machines 
> to download this data.
> - Each spawned process just downloads the data for the shard it should upload 
> to.
> - All the processes then start uploading data in parallel into their 
> respective MySQL shards using LOAD DATA infile.
>
> This proved to be the fastest approach, even in the wake of increasing data 
> loads. The enitre processing/loading would complete in less than 6 min. The 
> system has been holding up quite well so far, even though we've had to limit 
> the number of days for which we keep the data or else the MySQLs get 
> overwhelmed.
>
> Hope this is helpful to people.
>
> Regards
> -Ankur
>



-- 
Wang Zhong

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