On Fri, May 18, 2018, 21:32 Nick Coghlan, <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 18 May 2018 at 02:44, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
>
>> I'll also not quite sure why this is different than the credits we get
>> from e.g. Heroku/Salesforce for the bots or AWS for PyPI? I get the worry
>> of relying on a company that's too big to care if they upset us, but we
>> already do rely on such companies so if this is to be a new policy then we
>> have some de-tangling to do.
>>
>
> Note that those relationships are generally getting formalised as PSF
> in-kind sponsorships, so that they're not completely dependent on personal
> relationships with folks that work there, and so there's likely to be some
> prior warning if credits are being withdrawn and the Infrastructure team
> needs to make alternate service hosting arrangements (see
> https://www.python.org/psf/sponsorship/sponsors/ - while that listing
> doesn't separate out cash sponsorships from in-kind service donations, it's
> possible to make a reasonably informed guess as to which is which).
>
> FWIW, switching from a hybrid Travis/Appveyor setup to a hybrid
> Travis/VSTS setup seems like it would be a reasonable way to go to me,
> since we have existing sponsorship arrangements in place with both MS and
> Travis CI,
>

I'm not sure how formal our Travis arrangement is as that came about that
is to Donald's personal connections there which have left the company.
(E.g. I emailed support to get a sprint bump to not have cryptography
cripple us this year and I got the impression they didn't know what I was
talking about.)

but no formal relationship with the Appveyor folks that I'm aware of (I
> believe we're just using their regular free tier).
>

Correct. We're just like any other project to them.

-Brett


> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
> --
> Nick Coghlan   |   ncogh...@gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
>
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