hi,
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:51 AM, xdrudis <xdru...@tinet.cat> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:44:02AM -0600, Marc Jones wrote: > > Hi Xavi, > > > > Thanks for your interest in coreboot. This is a long email! :) > > > > I'm bad at summarizing. Sorry. > > > > > VGA BIOS is not required. You could have a headless system. Or a > > system with a framebuffer driver like Geode. > > > > Headless would be last resort. If possible I would like to have a > monitor connected to the system (either mainboard or graphics card) > and have a desktop there. I don't need video while booting (but I > would appreciate it, of course). I understand this is possible > depending on the GPU. When you say a system with a framebuffer you > mean any system with linux User Mode Setting should work without > propietary VGA BIOS ? > i think what marc said means these mainboard which has framebuffer driver. > > > > > > > Double graphics is a problem ? > > > > > > As far as I know the only modern desktop class chipsets supported by > > > the manufacturer, are AMD RS780/SB700 , am I wrong ? (thanks, AMD!). I > > > think all come with an ATI IGP , which requires blobs in the linux/X > > > driver (AtomBIOS). I may be misinformed on AtomBIOS, but I think I > > > don't want to use it. I've heard nouveau has just deblobed its > > > driver, so I might add an Nvidia graphics card to it (at least while > > > Open Graphics Project isn't ready for consumers). I'll try to buy one > > > second hand, as lesser evil, since I dislike buying directly from > > > vendors not supporting free software. Does having both the ATI IGP and > > > the Nvidia card give any additional complication ? (besides it's going > > > to be less tested than more usual setups). I wish Intel supported > > > coreboot or radeonhd didn't use AtomBIOS (like it once was). > > > > > > > This is a continued area of development, but yes, many drivers use the > > vbios too hold proprietary information. Again, not an issue if you are > > running a headless machine. > > > > Do you mean deblobing linux/X graphics drivers is a continued area of > development > or supporting IGP + graphics card in coreboot (if it needs some speacial > support > by corebbot) is a continued area of development ? > > > > > > There is no specific roadmap. This is usually driven by board > > availability. I think some boards will be ported during GSoC. If you > > have a preferred board, send an email to the list. Someone might be > > working on it. > > > > I don't have a prefered board (yet). I was thinking of picking one > of the few that people has shown some interest in here in the list. > That might be best for me as a newbie as I wouldn't be alone even > if it is not currently supported yet. I'm not sure if it would be > best for the project (having more that one test instance for the > same board ) or it would be best to have as many different boards > to test as possible. > the 780 mainboard which coreboot support now is mahogany. I am trying to porting a few more mainboard as GSOC project. the mainboard i choose at this moment is 1)Shine,2)Tilapia,3)Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H,4)ASUS M4A78-VM 5)Colorful C.A780G X5. i am aslo checking if i can order an Jetway PA78VM5-H which Scott have much interests. You can choose one of them or the other 780 mainboard. > > > > > I think that DDR3 support will be critical for coreboot this year. I > > am optimistic that we will get some help from AMD this summer. > > > > Ok, I can wait, I guess. I can start by the OS, test flashrom > with the propietary bios, etc. and handle coreboot proper later. > > > > > > > How to choose socketed boards ? > > > > > > How can one know whether a card has socketed or soldered BIOS ROMs > besides > > > looking at it or some photos ? Should it be in the specs or manual ? > > > (I don't trust myself with a soldering iron). > > > > > > > This will usually be in the manual. Many boards are SPI flash now and > > you need an external programmer with a test clip to program them. This > > is an area we need to improve on the wiki. > > > > I had read something (either in coreboot wiki or from some link there) > but I no longer find it. I thought SPI could be socketed or soldered. > most of the bios with public mainbard are soldered, but you can also use flashrom or external programmer which has test clip. take this as an example http://www.dediprog.com/SPI-flash-in-circuit-programming/ISP-Testclip-SO8 > > > > > These are great goals. It sounds like you have a lot in common with > > the folks at the FSF. :) > > > > In goals, we have a lot in common, I'm just less active pursuing them. > > > There are a couple AMD and Intel platforms that might meet your needs. > > Are there ? I've been looking at the supported mainboards and found > few that I could buy currently in a shop and are relatively > powerful. I'll look again. > > > I expect more boards (like the 780/710) to be supported this summer if > > you are willing to wait. I am also hopeful that we see coreboot on > > systems available from vendors in the future. > > > > I've already wited quite a lot, and my current laptop is falling > apart. So I may buy soon, but I may install coreboot later (I > understand buying before getting support may be risky). I'd like to > buy something with coreboot preinstalled, but that may be the next > system I buy after whatever I get now. In your products page I've seen > a couple of servers with coreboot I might get, but they're a bit > expensive for what I was thinking. > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org > http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot > -- Wang Qing Pei MSN:wangqing...@hotmail.com <msn%3awangqing...@hotmail.com> Gmail:wangqing...@gmail.com <gmail%3awangqing...@gmail.com> Phone:86+13426369984
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