On 06/24/2018 03:43 PM, Nico Huber wrote: > On 24.06.2018 21:37, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> On 06/24/2018 02:59 PM, ron minnich wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:47 AM Jonathan Neuschäfer <j.neuschae...@gmx.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "While we’d love to provide you with this information, we believe we >>>> cannot. However, we can’t prevent anyone from disassembling the fsbl and >>>> copying the values sent to the blackbox DDR register map." >>>> >>>> >>> >>> and ... there ends my interest in the hifive. A shame. >>> >> >> I can't understand what their target audience is? who would buy such a >> thing? who do they intend to sell these to? I mean the open source >> people can buy the now very affordable Talos 2L and the cheap-soc people >> can buy one of the many of ARM boards that litter the marketplace...I >> don't get it. > > I don't think you can compare the HiFive Unleashed with the Talos. They > really target completely different people and use cases. You could as > well ask, why produce smart watches, when people can afford the Talos? > > Talos is a workstation it doesn't fit anywhere but a workplace where > somebody else pays the power bill. So you can't even compare it to > cheap ARM SBCs, HiFive aside. It's a professional product, nothing to > play with, but something to work with. And it's open. It is marketed > as open. It is designed to be open. It is based on an open platform.
I just want to counter this one point. POWER9 is absolutely not power hungry. I've seen the 8-core chips idle at under 10W, with active loads maybe in the 40-60W range. We're dogfooding one machine in a typical office setting, and it dissipates nearly no heat -- it's using less power than the older Xeon it replaced. -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://www.raptorengineering.com -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot