> I did try to warn people on this mailing list about this in a reply to
> the 2025-08-06 meeting minutes:
>  > The timeline for that standards process is extremely tight and a
> participation later this year might already be pointless.
>
> Admittedly, starting a new thread would probably have been more visible.
> My apologies for that.
> Back then, we didn't know the exact first cutoff date yet, and I
> expected that cutoff date to be sooner than it actually happened. The
> deadlines back then were extended a bit, but not by much.

Yeah, I wasn't even really aware of this document yet at that time, I
was only able to see it after Werner sent out the link earlier in this
thread. I probably didn't see the email you sent back then to be
honest. I think we were all a bit unaware of how urgent this is and
how massive and overbearing the document's contents would be.

I definitely really appreciate any help you can provide in explaining
and navigating this process now, or helping us get the foot in the
right door.

> Let me share some good news: I talked with the rapporteur for boot
> managers a few hours ago (after all, we were in the same meeting room
> for three days) and he is still very much interested in comments,
> preferably against the latest version of the draft. It will be
> challenging for him to squeeze in those comments, but better try now
> than later.

That sounds great, thanks! This did actually get me to marathon
through the evening now and make it to the end of at least the
requirements part of the doc (though I may have skimmed and missed a
few parts). I've got all my comments gathered in a PDF (attached) for
now. I assume I'll need to transform all of these into "issues"
according to the process in
https://labs.etsi.org/rep/stan4cra/en-304-623? Or is this something
you could directly forward to this "rapporteur"? (I'm a bit confused
by the feedback process, I can only see two existing issues on the
labs page. Is that all the feedback they ever got on this document or
are the others just hidden somehow?)

I'll be on a plane Monday/Tuesday, but I can try to do that later next
week — I hope that will still be in time? I would also appreciate
anyone else who wants to look through my objections and let me know if
they make sense or I'm just misunderstanding something, of course (a
lot of this is just about very vague wording, or requirements that
seem to be specific to a certain (usually UEFI-style) bootloader where
it's not clear what this means for other systems that use different
concepts).
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