*Such confusions that you make!* *Honestly, about philosophy and its authors you need to, first, learn a lot more.* *Anyway, your confusions, stated with such certainty and seriousness, end up being rather amusing and humorous. Let's end it here, it's not worth it, for neither you nor us, to waste our time with this subject anymore.* *Regarding your recent illness, we wish you a good recovery.*
2009/2/11 Jim Whitescarver <jimscar...@gmail.com> > The modern revolution in philosophy attributable in no small part to > Kant is significant in breaking the past orthodoxy and spawning a > modern enlightenment in philosophy. Certainly Kant should be > considered in this context. > > Yet, in the spirit of Kant, and his successors, who put a different > light on what was taught by their predecessors, it is also pertinent > that we apply the ideas of Kant in a contemporary context, that they > may be taken to the next level, in what might become an emerging > philosophical revolution. > > We can grant that Kant exposed how we ought act, but sooner or later, > we ought also face up to the reality of how we can act, and while we > might strive for the categorical imperative, such is unattainable and > it is often better to act, and act wrong, than not act, such that the > categorical imperative is approached as far as is possible, in the > expression of the autonomy of the human will. > > It is to me by extension of Kant's own reasoning that we ought > delegate the categorical imperative to the fantasy realm of pure > reason as distinct from the actual. Kant's inclusion of the a priori > in the synthetic may have been a necessary step in the evolution of > philosophical thought but it divorces philosophy from the determinable > and renders it arbitrary as the a priori is ultimately subjective and > arbitrary. > > If it is common knowledge that their is no objectively extant > categorical imperative then the argument may be pointless. However, > if there are some deluded into accepting the Kantian notion that some > a priori may be shown to be actual in some manner, then it may be > instructive to show how that notion is contradicted. As I have said > before, the mantra of the new enlightenment ought be, asapere aude, > dare to admit what we cannot know. > > Jim > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:36 AM, moderators account > <moderators....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Kant, as any other author of Philosophy, demands an interpretation > effort, > > within the historical, political, economical, social, scientific, > cultural, > > (…) context of his time. To uproot Kant and interpret and subsume his > work > > in the categories and the contemporary contexts is wrong because it > produces > > biases. Equally important is to read Kant himself. > > > > The categorical imperative of Kant is a law of human reason produced by > the > > autonomy of the human will, placed as the fundament of the dignity of > each > > human individual, in what regards his autonomy. > > > > 2009/2/11 Jim Whitescarver <jimscar...@gmail.com> > >> > >> What is an extant end but a beginning. We cannot know how different > >> actions by butterfly effect, after butterfly effect, after butterfly > >> effect, will ultimately impact history. Not just once, but an > >> infinite number of times as the synthesis trumps both the thesis and > >> antithesis in the judgment of an alternative action. > >> > >> The categorical imperative exists only at the end of time unless we > >> have a way to divine the future. While my view is that the actual > >> existence of the categorical imperative is a Platonic delusion, I see > >> it none the less, as a worthy objective. > >> > >> "Bring me into the company of those who seek the truth and deliver me > >> from those who have found it." - Arthur C. Clarke: > >> > >> In my naive view, the important notion Kant alludes to is a holistic > >> grand synthesis that distinguishes wisdom from islands of knowledge. > >> It is the worthy notion of action based on principle rather than > >> circumstance. It is proactivity rather than reactivity. However, > >> there is always a greater truth, and the reality of the categorical > >> imperative is pure fantasy. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:09 AM, maria odete madeira > >> <mariaodete...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time > will > >> > that > >> > it should become a universal law." > >> > Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals > >> > > >> > "Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person > >> > or in > >> > the person of any other, always at the same time as an end and never > >> > merely > >> > as a means to an end." > >> > Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals > >> > > >> > > >> > "Therefore, every rational being must so act as if he were through his > >> > maxim > >> > always a legislating member in the universal kingdom of ends." > >> > > >> > Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals > >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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