Hello Gail, Am finding myself a little short of time, but shall attempt to respond to your query.
My thoughts are that the CHRISTOPHER IRWIN recorded in Clogher parish, Co. Tyrone, is not your emigrant 2xgreat grandfather CHRISTOPHER HAMILTON IRWIN of Cloneblaugh , but perhaps his father or an uncle. Referring to IrishGenealogy.ie https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ the death of CHRISTY IRWIN aged 81 years was recorded at Cloneblaugh on March 23 1906: the informant was CHARLOTTE IRWIN who was present at his death It will be possible to download an image of the certificate. There are several Hamilton families recorded in the Clogher tithe applotment book; perhaps Christopher’s mother’s maiden name was Hamilton? There are marriages of two Christopher Irwins recorded in Clogher civil registration district: 1849 and 1855, but, as yet, the images are not available online. I would be most surprised to find someone born in 1821 recorded in a tithe applotment book of 1829 (six years old), but his father, grandfather and uncles perhaps. Tithes were payable by leaseholders of agricultural land http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/titheindex.html Trust this attempts to answer your query, but feel it poses a number of further questions. Good luck with your search. Regards, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 1:39:39 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online Dear Mr. Swindley, Thanks to one of your responses to a query from another researcher on this site, I have hopefully discovered a possible relative in Tyrone Country (Christopher Hamilton Irwin, 1821-1901 - my Great-Great paternal Grandfather) whose name appears in the Griffith's Valuation in Clogher simply as Christopher Irwin, in all three of the lists for Claremore, Cloneblaugh and Eskernabrogue. As you have advised others, I went from there to try to find him in the tithe allotment books, without success. I may not have gone about this properly or completely, as I am a senior with little command of the computer - I am hoping that you will be able and willing to give me some further direction. I have verified my family's direct connection to a Christopher Hamiliton Irwin through Canadian census records, as he apparently emigrated to Ontario, Canada in 1849-50 with his wife (Jane McCutcheon) and older children John, Robert, Margaret and Christopher. (Sadly, an infant boy died on the passage). Other children born to Christopher Sr. and Jane in Ontario were William, Alexander (my Great-Grandfather), Mary Ann, Rebecca, Stewart Jackson, Sarah and Anne. You personally deserve a lot of credit for the hours of painstaking effort you have obviously put into this project, and for your willingness and kindness in assisting others to benefit from your work. Thank you for this, Gail (Irwin) Mooney Manitoba, CANADA ________________________________ From: "Len Swindley" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:35:34 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online Hello Boyd and all, I cannot stress the value of the Tithe Applotment Books to Irish researchers, but my decade-long project of transcribing every parish in Co. Tyrone has brought zero response and I have often wondered the value of continuing with the project. Some parishes have two surviving books and both warrant transcribing: tithepayers may be recorded in c1825 but gone (generally emigrated) by the late 1830s. The possibly easiest method to locate the origins of emigrant forebears is to refer to Griffiths Valuation (c1860) http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ for any concentration of the names/s you are researching and then refer to the relevant tithe applotment books. Am not sure if it will be possible to create an index from my files (formatted in Word), but will be considered. To date, the number of pages compiled amounts to 1,504, and the number of entries recording the names of tithe payers amounts to in excess of 35,000. And the transcribing continues. It is a major project and is not being undertaken in any other county in Northern Ireland. These are VERY important records. Best wishes with your researching, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]> on behalf of Boyd Gray <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:57:26 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online Hi Len, A small point. As you say, the TABs are essential for researching the previous generation and the only place to find them for Tyrone is at CTI, where you have transcribed them. And they are essential viewing IF you know which parish to research. However, I am often searching for a family in the 1820s/30s where the only location known is Co Tyrone. This is easy for the GV as the website allows one to search by county but I cannot do that with the CTI database. How hard would it be to merge the TAB data which is currently divided by parish, into a database covering the whole of Tyrone which would then be easily searchable. Think the Hacketts in that email we commented upon yesterday. Best wishes, Boyd https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ On 23 May 2018 at 14:15, Len Swindley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes, Kathleen, Askaboutireland http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ is a great website for searching for entries contained in the c1860 Griffiths Valuation – both by surname AND location. Remember that phonetic spelling of family names was most common in Griffiths, so it is useful to consider variations in spelling. The facility to upload data and photographs has been available since 2011 Also, the indexed Tithe Applotment Books of the 1820s and 1830s for Co. Tyrone are essential for researching the previous generation: the most extensive database for all Tyrone parishes is available on the CountyTyroneIreland website http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/titheindex.html I hope that you have found some useful data amongst the many files on CTI. All good wishes, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of K Cooper <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:17:37 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online Periodically, I go back and check Griffith's again - especially if I find a link to a new family. This time I noticed the option to add information, photos, etc., to the record. Is this new or have I suddenly opened my eyes to something that has been there all along? It's a great idea. Kathleen Cooper On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:05 PM Jim McKane <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Griffith's Valuation is FREELY available & fully searchable online at - http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch Here you may search for only a Surname or include other options to search the WHOLE database at one time. Enjoy and Good Luck Jim McKane, Webmaster of CoTyroneIreland.com _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com -- Cuimhnigh ar na daoine ónar tháinig tú "Remember the men whence you came." _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList mailing list [email protected] http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com
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