Grrrrr..... "That is because most Irwins were PROTESTANT ( not Catholic)
but not all."

On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, 14:37 Boyd Gray <boydgra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I am currently researching the Irwins of Claremore, Parish of Clogher,
> County Tyrone, who also emigrated to Ontario.  But since they came from
> Clogher, that means they are NOT your Irwins.  Except for the fact that we
> are not 100% sure our Irwins did come from Clogher and you do not seem too
> sure that yours came from Ardboe (Arboe?) because Ardboe is not the same
> place as Castlederg and if they came from one, it is highly unlikely they
> also came from the other.  (I live in this part of the world and my Grays
> are NOT related to the all the other Grays in County Tyrone!)  I should
> also add that I have never heard of Benbeg and it is not in this list of
> townlands for County Tyrone:
> https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/
>
> So, the point of my response to you, David, is that you really need to
> work on the following points in order to make progress with your research:
>
> 1.  You need something, anything, from their lives in Canada, to give you
> a place name to work with in your research.  Why Ardboe?  Why Castlederg?
> It is really unlikely to be both.  What evidence do you have from Canada,
> or England, not just the discovery of similar names in Ireland?  Canadian
> deaths, and especially Ontario deaths, often give the place where people
> were born and also, perhaps even more helpfully, the names of both parents
> including the mother's maiden name.  English 19th century censuses may also
> be more helpful.
>
> 2.  If the older William was born between 1820 and 1830, it is likely he
> married after 1845 and that is when Protestant marriages were first
> recorded by the civil authorities here in Ireland and those records are
> online.  So, you need to know the name of his wife and look for that
> marriage.  It is unlikely the younger William and his brother Robert were
> born before 1864, so you will not find their civil births because they only
> started being recorded in 1864.  That is a task for church records and they
> are NOT online so cannot be researched at the click of a mouse.
> Incidentally, I am assuming they were Protestant (Church of Ireland,
> Presbyterian or Methodist typically).  That is because most Irwins were
> Catholic but not all.  So, you need to establish that first.  Catholic
> church records ARE online.
>
> If you can answer these questions, then get back to us and I am sure
> people will be able to help.
>
> You might also consider checking with this group to see if they know of
> any Ardboes or Benbegs near Castlederg:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/castledergfamilyhistorysociety/
> (Actually, I did it for you so you can go there and see what they say.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Boyd
>
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>
> https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/
>
> http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 12:58, David Irwin via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>> Please can you post the following on the Co Tyrone message board?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am researching William IRWIN, b1820-30ish near Ardboe in Co Tyrone. My
>> understanding is that he had two sons, William and Robert who both
>> emigrated to England in the late 1800s. However I think William (the
>> father) emigrated to Huron County, Ontario Canada and died there in 1889.
>> The family may also have spent the early part of their time in Northern
>> Ireland in the Castlederg or Benbeg areas. I would be delighted to hear
>> from anyone who can add to the story please, particularly as my father
>> William (yes another one!) and a direct descendant has recently passed
>> away. Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> David
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