A most detailed and extensive response Elwyn!
The McGreece (and variants) researcher is fortunate that the Kilskeery RC registers are available online https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0315 Have taken a quick look and they seem mostly legible. Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com> on behalf of elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 7:46:56 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> Cc: elwyn soutter <elwynsout...@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McGreece / M'Griece / Magreese family; Kinine, Tyrone Kinine is in the parish of Kilskeery. To save a little duplication, here’s a reply I sent Malcolm on another genealogy board. Malcolm isn’t convinced that McGreece and McGinnis might be the same. I’d be interested to see if anyone can come up with an alternative explanation of how Ellen & Patrick might otherwise be brother & sister. “Griffiths Valuation for 1860 lists Hugh McGreese farming on plot 5 in Kinine. That was 13 acre farm. It remains in that name in the Valuation revision records till 1888 when it changes to Patrick. Then in 1899 there is an illegible change before it goes to McCullion in 1906. This looks to be Patrick in the 1901 census, living with his niece: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Moorefield/Kinine/1740977/ No McGreese or Teague in Kinine in the 1911 census. This looks to be Ellen Garvey and her husband Thomas in the 1901 census: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Magheraculmoney/Sheemuldoon/1354822/ Ellen was previously married to Francis Teague who died 7.1.1888 aged 48. Their 2 children Owen and Hugh were born 30.4.1879 & 28.11.1882 respectively. Their daughter Rose Ann Tague (sic) was born 8.12.1880. Their birth certificates give her previous name as McGinnis/McGuinness. Francis and Ellen were married on 5.6.1877. She was a spinster, resided in Kinine and her father was Hugh McGuinis, farmer. I consider that McGreece and McGuinis/McGuinness etc are all variations of the same name. So that would confirm Patrick, whose death Ellen reported in 1902, was her brother and the son of Hugh who died in 1887: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11134/8076966.pdf I would say that Rose McGreece who died in 1898, aged 40, was a sister to Patrick & Ellen & Hugh junior. Hugh Teague the informant must have been Ellen’s son. I note that you have Mary McGreece as dying in 1868. However when Hugh died in 1887 he is recorded as still married. Did he remarry? (I don’t see a marriage if he did). Kilskeery RC records start in 1840. Have you searched them for the family? That should confirm some of the relationships and give you Hugh’s wife’s maiden name”. Elwyn On 20/07/2019, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > Where is or what is "Kinine" ?? > > > Jim McKane > South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario > > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 4:21 AM MD M via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > >> Hugh McGreece b c 1807, d 20th Sept 1887, Kinine; Son Hugh b c 1838 >> >> Mary McGreece / M'Griece b c 1804, d 1868 >> >> Patrick McGreece b c 1839, d 15th Aug 1902, Kinine: a sister Ellen m >> Unknown Garvey >> >> James McGreece b c 1819, d 12th Mch 1899, Kinine: Informant of death, >> niece Rose Ann Teague >> >> Rose McGreece b c 1850, d 16th Dec 1898, Kinine: Informant of death, >> nephew Hugh Teague >> >> Appreciate any further details of these family members; parents, >> children, >> dates, anything helpful !! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList Mailing List >> Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >> > _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
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