----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any
advice in this forum.]----

And let's not forget that you could be taking heaven only knows what 
holistic/natureopathic stuff, and as long as there's no scrip, nobody's
the 
wiser.

I agree that there's plenty of legit stuff that folks lose medicals over, 
but unfortunately the "big brother" stuff has gotten so out of hand that I

fear folks won't seek medical consultation just because they don't want to

lose their medical.

Leslie


>From: "Michael J. Nutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [COUPERS]  RAMP CHECKS
>Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:46:08 -0400
>
>----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any

>advice in this forum.]----
>
>It's true.  If someone is treated for depression, even a single
occurance, 
>the meds used are
>disqualifying.  Someone can, and hasm had a heart transplant and gotten a

>special issuance 3rd class
>medical.  you can now fly with insulin dependent diabetes, high blood 
>pressure, post bypass surgery,
>etc., etc. -but not psych meds.  What's funny (tho not really!) is that
if 
>someone chooses to take Zyban
>to quit smoking they are disqualified.  that is because Zyban is the same

>(Bupropion) as Wellbutrin, an
>anti-depressant.  Now that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
>
>Michael J. Nutt, MS, PA-C
>(full time in the Dept. of Surgery, moonlight 2 days a week in a private 
>psych practice)
>Warren, MI
>
>(P.S. I have privileges in the Dept. of Urology too)
>
>Candy and Bruce wrote:
>
> > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following 
>any advice in this forum.]----
> >
> > I have to agree with Bob here
> >
> > someone I know personally was denied a medical
> > because he and his wife had gone to counseling
> > to see if they could save their marriage
> >
> > (there was no physical abuse involved on either's part)
> >
> > he was denied under that "any mental or emotional problem"
> > part of the med standards
> >
> > possibly the mistake they made was in going to a
> > psychiatrist for the counseling, rather than a nonmedical
> > person  --  they had HMO coverage so that's what
> > they chose to use
> >
> > he appealed the revocation but the denial was upheld,
> > he will never be able to get a medical again
> > (it's a lifetime denial on those grounds, the Feds apparently
> > don't believe mental or emotional problems ever get better)
> >
> > if he wants to fly, he will have to stick with ultralights,
> > sailplanes, balloons; fly dual only; or fly illegally
> >
> > the funny part of this was:  the nonpilot was given a Rx for
> > psychoactive medicines and was hospitalized; the
> > pilot chose to go to counseling with her because he loved her
> > and wanted to help  --  the counselor told him there was
> > nothing wrong with him
> >
>
>

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