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If we do NOT complain and beat up on the bureaucrats, they WILL institute
all those "user fees' to take care of the people who believe in BIG
Government and Tax and Spend. Yes, we are better off than Europe, but it
will not last long if we are complacent.
George Frebert
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:25:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any
advice in this forum.]----
>  
>  David,
>  
>  I think us folks in the USA DO know how fortunate we are when we stop
and
>  think about it, and we need to keep thinking about it... every day. 
Europe
>  (and especially Britain, since that is (from my experience) the most
>  "american" of the countries on the east side of the pond) got into the
mess
>  they are in because the electorate continually elect, accept and often
even
>  even seek the security of a benevolent government to will "take care of
>  them" from cradle to grave.  They think (or thought) that there was
some
>  kind of never ending supply of funds.  Well, guess what, Government
money
is
>  always YOUR money.  If almost every body is on some kind of dole, the
money
>  has to come from somewhere.  It comes from a tax structure that makes
fuel
>  cost $2.10 a LITRE  (note LITRE, not gallon), when we all buy the fuel
from
>  the same place.  How many typical airports in the USA have a $12.60
landing
>  fee for a two seat, single engine plane that weighs less than 2000 lbs?

It
>  can happen here too.
>  
>  Now, I'll get off my soap box and listen.
>  
>  Regards,
>  
>  Rich Linder
>  
>  
>  
>  
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: David Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 03:30
>    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Subject: [COUPERS] Happiness (flying an Aircoupe)
>  
>  
>  ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any
>  advice in this forum.]----
>  
>    You guys don't know how lucky you are, I look at my figures in a
slightly
>  different manner and don't forget you must take into account the loss
off
>  interest your money invested in the Aircoupe could be earning you, even
at
>  3% this is substantial.
>  
>    All these figures are converted into US$ at the present rate $1.40 =
£1
>  
>    Hourly costs
>    Fuel 21 litres         $ 29.40  Believe it or not, gas costs that
here.
>    Oil     .5 litre               2.10
>    Landing                    12.60 Yes! we are charged for every
landing
and
>  this is at
>                                               a contract rate bought 50
>  landings in advance, they
>                                               even charge you this if
you
go
>  around without
>                                               touching down. Full rate
(not
>  contract) TWICE THIS
>                                               SUM.
>    Engine overhaul         6.30 Based on a life of 1800 hrs and overhaul
cost
>                                               of $11,200 which is what
it
>  costs here.
>                                 _______
>  
>                                 $ 50.40   Per hour with only ONE
landing,
if
>  you do more,
>                                                each one costs another
$12.60
>  
>    Annual costs which cost you whether you fly 100 hours or 400 hours
>  
>    Hangarage         $  910.00   Well, that's what I pay and they say
that
is
>  cheap
>    Insurance             1680.00 Yep, that's it over here
>    Annual                  1400.00  Our checks are 50 hours, 50 hours,
then a
>  150
>                                               hour check or annual,
whichever
>  is sooner. The 50
>                                               hour checks can be carried
out
>  by the owner but
>                                               the 150 hour or Annual
must
be
>  done by licensed
>                                               engineers on APPROVED
PREMISES.
>  (note that)!
>                               ________
>  
>                              $ 3990.00  Fly 100 hours in the year and
each
>  hour needs
>                                                $39.90 added
>  
>    So guys, it looks like this.... $50.40 plus $39.90 = $90.30 per
flying
>  hour if you fly 100 hours annually which in UK £s is £64.50 I reckon
about
>  £60 but then what about the loss of interest on my money which I could
>  invest at minimum 3% ?  The money I have invested in my Aircoupe is
about
>  £21,000 and at 3% that would earn me £630.00 or approx $1,000, so
there's
>  another $10 to add to the hourly cost if you fly 100 hours in the year.
>  
>    Over here most flying schools charge £90 to £120 per hour for hire of
a
>  Cessna 150 or Piper 140 solo rate that is $125 to $170 per hour.
>  
>    WHO WOULD FLY IN EUROPE? at these rates. ME.
>  
>    So enjoy your cheap flying, no wonder flying is popular in the USA,
in
>  Europe they are killing it.
>  
>    Dave Vernon
>  
>  
>  
>  





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