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Regarding the night flight question.  I had been informed by a CFI that 
I needed certain gyro instruments a while back.  He even printed out the 
FAR.  I KNEW I had seen it but couldn't find it in the manual.
After everyone's reply, I figured that I had to really research to find 
what I saw.  He printed out the VFR night and over the top for CARIIER 
ops.   
So.....  tonight I went out and flew three hours until sun was down for 
40 minutes.  Smooth air, pretty sunset over Lake Michigan, but I didn't 
want to push my luck into real darkness just yet.  I'll definitely need 
some more lumens than the old Grimes is giving me.

Thanks for everyone's help. 

Just for info - here's the FAR I was given -- but now I know it does not 
apply!!

§135.159   Equipment requirements: Carrying passengers under VFR at 
night or under VFR over-the-top conditions. 


No person may operate an aircraft carrying passengers under VFR at night 
or under VFR over-the-top, unless it is equipped with -- 

(a) A gyroscopic rate-of-turn indicator except on the following 
aircraft: 

(1) Airplanes with a third attitude instrument system usable through 
flight attitudes of 360 degrees of pitch-and-roll and installed in 
accordance with the instrument requirements prescribed in §121.305(j) of 
this chapter. 

(2) Helicopters with a third attitude instrument system usable through 
flight attitudes of ±80 degrees of pitch and ±120 degrees of roll and 
installed in accordance with §29.1303(g) of this chapter. 

(3) Helicopters with a maximum certificated takeoff weight of 6,000 
pounds or less. 

(b) A slip skid indicator. 

(c) A gyroscopic bank-and-pitch indicator. 

(d) A gyroscopic direction indicator. 

(e) A generator or generators able to supply all probable combinations 
of continuous in-flight electrical loads for required equipment and for 
recharging the battery. 

(f) For night flights -- 

(1) An anticollision light system; 

(2) Instrument lights to make all instruments, switches, and gauges 
easily readable, the direct rays of which are shielded from the pilots' 
eyes; and 

(3) A flashlight having at least two size "D" cells or equivalent. 

(g) For the purpose of paragraph (e) of this section, a continuous 
in-flight electrical load includes one that draws current continuously 
during flight, such as radio equipment and electrically driven 
instruments and lights, but does not include occasional intermittent 
loads. 

(h) Notwithstanding provisions of paragraphs (b), (c), and (d), 
helicopters having a maximum certificated takeoff weight of 6,000 pounds 
or less may be operated until January 6, 1988, under visual flight rules 
at night without a slip skid indicator, a gyroscopic bank-and-pitch 
indicator, or a gyroscopic direction indicator. 


Rick Green

N93686  415 C
South Haven MI

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