George I agree!  The longest flight I made in one day was Laughlin, NV to
Chicago,IL    13 and 1/2 hours.  My butt was sore but my back was OK. They
should
not have put the wing AD on the Alons or M-10. The spar caps were zinced
at the
factory.   gene

G/F Alon S/N149 wrote:

> > Gene, you are right on the money. The BEST airplane out there is the
one
> the person happens to own.  The other thing the Alon has that an ERcoupe
> will never have is a COMFORTABL interior with some room!  I have flown
my
> Alon 19 hours in a single day and do not had any gripes about comfort.
On
> the other hand, I flew a friend's ERcoupe a couple of months ago and
after
> one hour my lower back hurt so bad that I have not gone with him again.
My
> seats are also adjustable. Try that in an ERcoupe!  In conclusion, to my
> knowledge, there has yet to be one AD placed on the Alon airframe. (The
wing
> inspection holes can hardly be considered an AD.  They are for "saftey
> inspection" after 33 years.)
> George
>
> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:12:31 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >  Hi George, I'm not trying to convince anyone.  Most people who don't
care
> for Alons
> >  have never owned one or flown one fvery far. They may have went for a
> ride in one
> >  and liked their plane better.  If you ask a Luscomb owner which plane
is
> better he
> >  says a Luscomb. If you ask a Cessna owner he says Cessna so on and so
on.
> So who
> >  cares.   gene
> >
> >  G/F Alon S/N149 wrote:
> >
> >  > > Gene, I don't care what you say, you will NEVER convince a
die-hard
> >  > ERcoupe owner that there is a better airplane out there!  Since the
> Alon won
> >  > the short landing contest, the guy that went through the fence just
> might
> >  > still have an airplane today if he was flying the Alon. (I believe
the
> Alon
> >  > has more "UP" elevator control.)  In any event, I will bet my last
> dollar
> >  > you will not get ONE convert! As for me, I would not own an
ERcoupe!
> >  > George
> >  >
> >  > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:10:55 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  >
> >  > >  George the people who put down the Alon have never had one very
> long.  I
> >  > got my
> >  > >  first Alon in 1979 and still have it, and always will. I have
had
> very
> >  > little
> >  > >  trouble with it in all that time. I have one with rudder pedals
and
> one
> >  > without. the
> >  > >  rudders are great for the crosswind take-offs.   I'm going to
put on
> the
> >  > 30 gal
> >  > >  tanks soon.  How did your extended baggage come out?   gene
> >  > >
> >  > >  G/F Alon S/N149 wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > >  > Gene, I have owned an ERcoupe and after flying my Alon, I
could
> not
> >  > agree
> >  > >  > with you more!
> >  > >  > George Frebert
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:49:41 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > >  The Alon Aircoupe with the older gear (not the spring gear)
> with
> >  > rudder
> >  > >  > pedals
> >  > >  > >  are the best Aircoupes and best small planes ever built as
far
> as I
> >  > see
> >  > >  > it.
> >  > >  > >  gene  martin
> >  > >  > >
> >  > >  > >  Mark T Daly wrote:
> >  > >  > >
> >  > >  > >  > Thanks for the info:
> >  > >  > >  >
> >  > >  > >  > With so many hours in Ercoupes, which do you prefer...
Erco,
> >  > Fourney,
> >  > >  > Alon,
> >  > >  > >  > etc?  Rudder pedals or not?
> >  > >  > >  >
> >  > >  > >  > Curious,
> >  > >  > >  > Mark
> >  > >  > >  > 5458F
> >  > >  > >  > -----Original Message-----
> >  > >  > >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  > >  > >  > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >  > >  > >  > Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 3:35 PM
> >  > >  > >  > Subject: RE: [COUPERS] FREE Ercoupe Glider Rides
> >  > >  > >  >
> >  > >  > >  > V. Childs wrote:
> >  > >  > >  >
> >  > >  > >  > > Ercoupe Glider Club Member.     First time 1977.
Fueled
> plane
> >  > north
> >  > >  > of
> >  > >  > >  > Rome, Ga
> >  > >  > >  > > on cold day, climbed to 3000 msl, motor quit!  Tried
> primer,
> >  > motor
> >  > >  > would
> >  > >  > >  > run but
> >  > >  > >  > > only for a moment, landed in very small field, hit
fence
> post,
> >  > >  > cartwheeled
> >  > >  > >  > > airplane. Plane destroyed.  1946 415-C    N94382   SN
1605.
> FAA
> >  > said
> >  > >  > dirt
> >  > >  > >  > or
> >  > >  > >  > > ice in carb, fuel starvation.   Second time 1985. Oil
line
> broke
> >  > ,
> >  > >  > shot
> >  > >  > >  > oil on
> >  > >  > >  > > exhaust pipes, cabin filled with smoke. THANK GOD I WAS
IN
> A
> >  > ERCOUPE!
> >  > >  > >  > Opened
> >  > >  > >  > > side windows put head outside.  I would not have made
it if
> I
> >  > was in
> >  > >  > a
> >  > >  > >  > Cessna
> >  > >  > >  > > or Piper!!!  I was only about 4 mi from Clow Airport,
> >  > Plainfield, IL.
> >  > >  > >  > After
> >  > >  > >  > > landing I checked the oil. I lost 3 quarts in a VERY
short
> time!
> >  > This
> >  > >  > was
> >  > >  > >  > a
> >  > >  > >  > > forced landing not a glider ride but I wanted you all
to
> know
> >  > the
> >  > >  > moment
> >  > >  > >  > you
> >  > >  > >  > > smell smoke in a Ercoupe open the window and get your
head
> out!
> >  > >  > Plane:
> >  > >  > >  > 1946
> >  > >  > >  > > 415-C    N3344H.       Third time: 1986:  Fuel drain on
gas
> bowl
> >  > by
> >  > >  > motor
> >  > >  > >  > poped
> >  > >  > >  > > out at 1500 mls.  The part you push in to drain the gas
> from the
> >  > >  > headed
> >  > >  > >  > tank
> >  > >  > >  > > shot out of the housing.  After 40 years of draining
the
> headed
> >  > tank,
> >  > >  > the
> >  > >  > >  > brass
> >  > >  > >  > > tip that holds it in the houseing wore out and it shot
out.
> GAS
> >  > >  > >  > EVERYWHERE!!!
> >  > >  > >  > > Cork started down!!!!  I was about  6 miles from Naper-
> Aero,
> >  > >  > Naperville,
> >  > >  > >  > > IL.    I landed. Turned motor off moment I was on the
> ground!!!.
> >  > >  > Jumped
> >  > >  > >  > out of
> >  > >  > >  > > plane!!! GAS EVERYWHERE.  Header tank ran dry. THANK
GOD NO
> >  > FIRE!!!
> >  > >  > This
> >  > >  > >  > was a
> >  > >  > >  > > forced landing not a glider ride, but I wanted you all
to
> know
> >  > about
> >  > >  > >  > replacing
> >  > >  > >  > > that drain once in a while.  Plane: 1946 415-C
N2695H.
> >  > Fourth
> >  > >  > time:
> >  > >  > >  > > 1986:  Primer line broke at 2000 msl.   GAS running on
> legs. 10
> >  > mi
> >  > >  > from
> >  > >  > >  > Clow
> >  > >  > >  > > Airport, Plainfield, IL. Landed. This was a forced
landing
> also.
> >  > >  > Fifth
> >  > >  > >  > time:
> >  > >  > >  > > 1988:  Took off from small grass strip at Prairie Lake
Hunt
> >  > Club,
> >  > >  > >  > Marseilles,
> >  > >  > >  > > IL. Got about 100' up,  motor quit!!!  Put nose down,
> landed
> >  > ahead
> >  > >  > at end
> >  > >  > >  > of
> >  > >  > >  > > runway.  This happened VERY FAST!!!  Ran off  the end
of
> the
> >  > runway.
> >  > >  > No
> >  > >  > >  > damage
> >  > >  > >  > > to plane.   This was the year for record heat in IL!
It
> was
> >  > over
> >  > >  > 100
> >  > >  > >  > air temp
> >  > >  > >  > > and very windy.  But the wind was right down the
runway.
> I
> >  > got in
> >  > >  > the
> >  > >  > >  > plane
> >  > >  > >  > > and took off right away.  I did not let it warm up at
all.
> I
> >  > was
> >  > >  > very
> >  > >  > >  > warm and
> >  > >  > >  > > wanted to get going.  I think a got VAPOR-LOCK!!!
After
> the
> >  > FREE
> >  > >  > glider
> >  > >  > >  > > ride!!  I gave it a shot of primer,  the motor started
up
> and  I
> >  > >  > taxied
> >  > >  > >  > back to
> >  > >  > >  > > the ramp. I drained all the sumps, ran it on the ground
for
> >  > awhile.
> >  > >  > It
> >  > >  > >  > ran good
> >  > >  > >  > > so I took off AGAIN!!!  Talk about a scared pilot!!!
That
> was
> >  > me
> >  > >  > that
> >  > >  > >  > day!!!
> >  > >  > >  > > Making the same take off only about a half hour after
the
> Glider
> >  > >  > ride!!
> >  > >  > >  > > Plane: 1965 Alon A-2     N6557Q    SN 57     This may
sound
> like
> >  > a
> >  > >  > lot of
> >  > >  > >  > > mishaps, but I have over 7000 hours of flying Ercoupes
all
> over
> >  > the
> >  > >  > >  > > country.       gene martin
> >  > >  > >  > >
> >  > >  > >  > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  > >  > >  > >
> >  > >  > >  > > >   And other member of the Ercoupe Glider Club.
Please
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> >  > >  > >  > facts
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> >  > >  > >  > > >
> >  > >  > >  > > >   Starting a list: N-number, Who, When, Where & Why
> >  > >  > >  > > >
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> >  > tapered
> >  > >  > Shaft
> >  > >  > >  > > >
> >  > >  > >  > > >         Metal Prop.
> >  > >  > >  > > >   N3802H Ed Burkhead
> >  > >  > >  > Ice in
> >  > >  > >  > > > fuel bowl
> >  > >  > >  > > >
> >  > >  > >  > > >   N3773H Chuck Rosenfeld
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