jollyd wrote:
> 
> the old "rope trick", is great, and it does work in an emergency...there
is one
> more trick I use and that isto "take the valve"...take off the rocker
box. and
> hit the offender several times with a big hard rubber hammer..first
using
> penetrating oil all around the offending valve....MOST of the time it
will come
> loose.....as a point of intrest...Has anyone "tore down" a engine that
had
> mistery oil used a lot in it?....pray tell, what did yo find?....don't
get me
> wrong, Mystery oil is good, but I heard it is nothing more than
kerosine, with a
> little "pew" mixed in...am I wrong?. jolly in aurora..
> 
> David Abrams wrote:
> 
> > The Rope Trick?
> >
> > OK, I start up at ORE after a fly-in and I have a 3 cylinder 'Coupe.
I am
> > not going home.  Here is what you do:
> >
> > Stop the engine as soon as you notice the problem.  No point in
bending any
> > pushrods.
> >
> > Pull the upper spark plug out of the cylinder with the stuck (it is
always
> > the ) exhaust valve.   Move the prop until the piston is at bottom
dead
> > center and thread the rope (use 1/4 inch or 3/8 in cotton) into the
cylinder
> > through the spark plug hole.  Slowly move the prop to compress the
rope with
> > the piston.  This will push the valve closed.  Do not push past the
point
> > necessary to close the valve.  Lower the piston and remove the rope
and put
> > everything back together again.
> >
> > Usually this will unstick the valve enough to get you home at which
point my
> > mechanic drops the valve into the cylinder (after tying a piece of
dental
> > floss to the end) and reams the valve guide before pulling the valve
back
> > into place.
> >
> > The problem is that the valve sticks open because at shutdown the
valve is
> > in the open position and there is insufficient clearance between the
valve
> > and the guide due to lead deposits.  As the engine cools down the
valve
> > sticks in place.
> >
> > When you start the engine, the valve is not returned to the closed
position
> > by spring pressure.  By closing the valve with the rope, you break the
> > deposits a bit but mostly when the valve is opened by the rocker it is
> > moving and the spring pressure can close it again.  This trick has
allowed
> > me to get home from far away twice when I had a stuck valve.  In both
cases
> > I had the guide reamed by my mechanic before I flew again.
> >
> > David Abrams
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://ercoupe.com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:13 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: AvBlend - Technical Question/Posting
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe I had better start using something in my oil since I
> > > don't know the
> > > "ROPE TRICK".  Or maybe I should learn the "ROPE TRICK".
> > > Anyone care to
> > > enlighten me?  Wayne N3544H Shelton, WA
> > >
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Hi Jolly,
        I haven't heard that, but if it is true it's still okay (just more
expensive) as kerosine is good stuff too.  :-) I've used it for things
on my bicycle when I was a kid, before I'd ever heard of MMO, and it
worked fine. (So will diesel fuel work as a penetrating and/or
lubricant. Actually, they are about the same thing, as is JP4. They're
all from the kerosine family I believe.)
        Incidently, here's a little tip I learned over in Asia many years
ago;
we had some 'steel' parts that were rusted together and nothing we tried
could get them apart (a gear on a shaft). One of the guys present was a
medic and he suggested trying 'full strength' iodine (You know, the
stuff yoiu can't get).  Well, they have it in hospitals so he got us a
small amount of it and we tried it. WOW! I have never seen rust dance
around like that! And guess what, the gear came off faily easily. The
iodine worked it's way in between the gear and the shaft like a virus
and just 'ate' the rust and weakened it to the point that we were able
to get them apart. I don't know where a person could obtain iodine on
the civilian market that hasn't been reduced to the weak stuff we get in
drug stores, but it's something to remember. (As if our 'gray-matter'
wasn't already saturated enough, right?) 
        I've used 'naval-jelly' and many other things, but none worked
like the
'full strength' iodine did.

Bob Saville
N3396H 415C
Eugene,  OR

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