Glen, Glen.

Your mouth definitely is NOT the issue.  
But now, at least I do know where you are coming from and that was
my question and you certainly have answered it.

If I sensed it was possible to win your heart and mind over to the EAA 
builder's side, I would give it a shot.
However, it appears you have pretty well made your mind up.
But, there are two sides to every story.

No need to preach to choir members like myself, but for those 
of you that might feel like Glen, let me assure you......
the REAL builders of homebuilts are not saving any money in building
their planes; kits or otherwise. 
Quite the reverse.
It takes an obscene amount of time to build ANYTHING.
2000 man hours is not untypical.
A used C-150 is far cheaper to buy than build from scratch.
Also, real builders build for the joy of building.
The sleaze bags trying to run around regulations to fly on the cheap 
will be with us with or without the EAA or FAA or whatever.
They are opportunists. Nothing more.
They do NOT represent the EAA in any shape, form or fashion.
For those that do join with this in mind are soon weeded out by
their own actions. It really is a non issue.
Please remember the "E" in EAA does mean EXPERIMENTAL... 
not Piper or Cessna, etc.

Soap box = OFF (again <g>)

Bob Urban
EAA Chapter 91
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Glen Ward wrote:
> 
> Bob and the others who wrote,
> True, I have a big mouth, but... It is just so stupid that they make
Cessna
> and the rest of them jump through endless hoops while a bunch of kit
makers,
> some of whom are pushing con-artist standing, led on by the EAA, make
snap
> together kits for folks so that they can have a cheaper plane.  How does
> this help anyone?  Most of the people I have seen building them lately
are
> as naive as anybody who would go out and get suckered into buying a
plane if
> Cessna were making one under less stringent regulations.  I know of
quite a
> few, including a couple here at our airport, that were manufactured in
the
> north east, at a total cost of perhaps $200,000 each (I'm talking
composite
> speedsters here, Lancairs etc.)  The local coal company owner "built"
one of
> them, which really surprised everybody, even his own mother who I know
well.
> That is what it is all about.  They forgot all about the REAL
homebuilders a
> long time ago.  Look at the experimental amateur-built category, what it
is
> supposed to be for, education etc., then look at how the EAA brings them
all
> up to their big shindig and is in on the announcement of every new snap
> together kit, all of which are clearly for general flying, not for the
> experience of contruction and learning.  That's only half of it, the
rest of
> it is the people with no sense who will fly anything with or without
wings,
> get the materials out at 84 Lumber, engine out at Bill and Bud's
Auto-Motif
> Recyclin', but that is another debate all together.
> Glen Ward
> EAA Chapter Never

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