Mel,  Keep the old single nose fork for the  nose ski. The single fork
gos down
into the pedastal of the nose ski so it can't come up into the prop.  I
had the
duel fork on my coupes so I was going to have to put cables on it.  They
look
cool on skis in the air and on the ground.   gene

mbn wrote:

> Gene: Thanks loads. My son wants to give it a try.We have about 4.5
months
> of snow in this part of Idahoand we have a private strip so its either
shut
> her down for the winter,move her to Council airport, they don't keep
that
> runway clean all the time ,or put ski's on her. The coupe has the single
on
> the front, but we are thinking about changeing it to the double fork.
> Thanks again  Mel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: V. Childs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: mbn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: slippery stuff and hangar talk
>
> > Hi Mel, I bought a set of main skis from a Cessna 140, they where
model
> > Federal 1500.  The nose ski came from a man in Lady Smith, WI..  It to
was
> a
> > Federal 1500 ski  but it had a big pedestal for the nose fork to keep
the
> prop
> > out of the snow.  It was made in the 40s just for the Ercoupe single
nose
> > fork.    I had a duel fork so I would have had to modify it.  The
Federal
> Ski
> > Co. was  I think from from Minneapolis, MN.   I don't know if their
still
> in
> > business or got bought out by someone.  Some of the WI or MN coupers
would
> > know.   I think alot of them have been around skis.  The Champ was fun
on
> > skis.  You could land on lakes and fields.  Skis are alot of work, you
> need
> > people around to help you move the plane on the ground when you land.
> They
> > are hard on the airplane also.  You have no cushion when you land on
hard
> > packed snow or ice like you do with tires.  You blow alot of snow and
ice
> on
> > the tail surfaces.    I don't think the Ercoupe or any low wing plane
is a
> > good plane to put skis on.  With deep snow you may hit the wings with
a
> drift
> > on take off or landing.  You would be putting alot of pressure on the
nose
> > fork and controls with side load in a turn with that big nose ski and
even
> if
> > you pull the plane out for take off with out turning it you may get
side
> load
> > on the nose ski when landing with a crosswind.  Even the champ was
hard to
> > turn on skis, you have no brakes with skis so you had to use rudder to
> blow
> > the tail around.  To blow the tail around you would put full stick
forward
> and
> > full power the tail would raise and when you pushed the rudder it
would
> kick
> > it around.  Even doing it this way you needed a couple hundred feet to
> turn
> > around.  I sold the skis to a man with a Ercoupe in WI.   If you want
a
> set of
> > skis check Trade-Plane, run a want ad in the coupe capers and check
with
> the
> > WI wing.   I think the man I sold them to was in it.  Theres some nose
> skis
> > still around and like I said the mains where Federal 1500.  You could
> check
> > Wag-Aero they may have a ski like the 1500.  The 1500 stand for the
gross
> > weight of the plane. So a 1500 ski would hold 1500 pounds on snow a
> Federal
> > model ski 2500 would hold 2500 pounds on snow. A set of skis now days
> should
> > sell for $1500 - $2000.   gene
> >
> > mbn wrote:
> >
> > > Gene: Where did you get the ski's for the coupe? Thanks Mel
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: V. Childs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:22 PM
> > > Subject: slippery stuff and hangar talk
> > >
> > > > I agree, the take off is much more work than the landing in a
strong
> > > > crosswind.  The ercoupe is no good on ice. You can't keep it
strait
> with
> > > > the nose wheel on ice. If it starts to go of center you have no
rudder
> > > > to bring it back and the nose wheel will slid.  I almost lost one
that
> > > > way.  I had a champ on skis and it was ok on ice but you have
rudder
> to
> > > > keep it centered.  I had skis for the ercoupes but I sold them.  I
was
> > > > afraid the nose ski would be to hard on the controls if you turned
and
> > > > you might hit the prop if it came up to high (Like if the cable
> broke).
> > > > The aircoupe is good on snow with out skis anyway.  I landed on a
> > > > mountain pipe line airstrip west of Albquerque, NM  5000' paved at
> 5900'
> > > > elevation just ahead of a snow storm.  There were no buildings on
the
> > > > airstrip when but I saw a office trailer about a half mile away so
I
> > > > walked there.  It got dark and started to snow about one hour
after I
> > > > landed.  There was a Indian in the trailer who worked for the pipe
> > > > line.  I told him I had to put down because the snow and spend the
> > > > night.  He said I could sleep on the couch.  I knew it was to cold
to
> > > > start the plane in the morning if I just left it so I got up every
> hour
> > > > and half, walked the half mi in the light snow and start the
plane,
> let
> > > > it run for 10 min., (to keep the oil thin). Walk back to the
trailer
> try
> > > > to sleep (light sleep). I did this over & over till morning. It
was a
> > > > cold clear morning.  It  only snowed about 3''.   I brushed the
snow
> off
> > > > the wings, and thought,  I have less then half fuel, I'm by
myself,
> Its
> > > > about 5 degrees out here I'm going to try and take off.   If I
don't
> get
> > > > speed fast enough by half way I'll abort and try to get someone
with a
> > > > plow to make a path.  That would not have been a easy task.   I'm
in
> the
> > > > middle of nowhere low on money coming back from Vegas!!!  I took
off.
> > > > The Alon got us off in about 4000'.  We had breakfast in
Albquerque.
> I
> > > > bought this plane in 1979. I put over 2500 hours on this one.  I
will
> > > > have this plane till I die.  With memories like these I could
never
> sell
> > > > it.   gene
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >


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