Thanks to everyone for the advice on NOT rolling my Coupe. I'm convinced,
no
rolls for me! It was funny though reading the attached reply from Ron, the
maneuver he describes is exactly the reason for my thinking about rolls.

With all the talk of late about minimum safe altitude to turn back to the
runway after engine failure, I've been experimenting with the quickest way
to turn back with the least amount of altitude loss. What I discovered in
my
Coupe was that if the engine looses power at climb, pull firmly on the
yoke(if at safe altitude) till it hits the stop and initiate a bank of
about
60 degrees. Without power, the Coupe rolls hard and the nose "drops
through"
pointing you in the opposite direction from which you started. I can do
this
consistently with less than 200 feet altitude loss. It is also great fun,
and a very low speed, low G maneuver. I've never tried it with power on as
Ron describes.

I guess the problem is that the Coupe is a very sporty flyer which  makes
it
fun to play, which was the reason behind my question on rolls.

Thanks Again Everyone!
Roger - 99399

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Rolls?


>If you want to have fun, get a instructor, then here is what you do
>
>At 100mph straight and level look at your compass (I'll tell you why
later)
>
>Start pulling the wheel firmly until it hits the stops.  You will be nose
>high but still not stalled
>
>When it hits the stops turn full left or right (your choice) UNTIL the
wings
>are at 60 degrees or so (do not exceed more than 90 degrees). then center
>the controls.
>
>### caution if you get good with you will be tempted to roll it ( DO NOT
>ROLL IT )
>The coupe can not do a split S...
>
>Then hold on for a sec. the tail and nose will switch places and then
level
>the wings.......
>(it is called a slice back, 100% real fun... done right one G the whole
way
>around)
>
>Done wrong, pull power and recover, (check for blue on top and green on
>bottom) you will not be upside down and you sould not pull more than 2
G's
>
>And if done right look at your compass, you are going 180 from the
direction
>you started.
>
>A guy with a zillion hours showed me this one...... oh yea his name is
Bob
>Hover. (being a CAP cadet was great - back in 70's)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 3:18 PM
>Subject: Re: Rolls?
>
>
>> On 06/14/99 08:47:47 you wrote:
>> >
>> >At 08:54 AM 6/14/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>Hi Everyone:
>> >>
>> >>Can you do aileron rolls in a 2 control Coupe?? I know you can't loop
>> >
>> >I think it probably could.  It might do a pretty good roll.
>> >We used to roll 150's quite a bit, holding constant rudder
>> >in the direction of the roll, so you don't need independent
>> >rudder control.
>> >
>> >If you try it without an aerobatic instructor, you'll probably
>> >do a split-S and build up a lot of speed.   Someone here
>> >mentioned that a dive test was done on them once, and the wings
>> >"folded" at 140 mph.  With that information, I don't think the
>> >Ercoupe is a good choice for aerobatics.
>> >
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >Steve Dold ([EMAIL PROTECTED])    http://home.pacbell.net/sdold/
>> >Say NO to useless over-quoting
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> Leave aerobatics in non-aerobatic aircraft to Bob Hoover (if the FAA
>> doesn't screw with his medical any more).  Too many bad things can
happen
>> when "stretching the envelope".
>>
>> Michael J. Nutt
>> Warren, MI
>>
>>
>
>

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