Dad, Can you ask Mike if we can borrow his tent for next week? Is the plan to fly the T-bone to Sun n Fun on Thursday afternoon and camp Thursday night and Friday night? Do I need to get a taxi or rental car?
My flight info is Delta Express 10:15am arriving Orlando 12:15 on Thursday the 15th. I wasn't sure what all the logistics were. Just let me know? You did say you were flying down on Wednesday to checkout the plane? Take care Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 1:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: coupers-digest V1 #142 coupers-digest Friday, April 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 142 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:45:43 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Info I belong to both the EAA and AOPA. I get similar benefits from both in the form of their magazines--both informative but in different areas, but together they give a broad coverage of GA. I can't build a doghouse either, and I won't ever get into commercial aviation, but I like knowing about both. I find their articles to have more substance than the store bought magazines. I like the principle behind EAA and the congressional clout of the AOPA. I also find the AOPA web site and the availability of other benefits to be worth the price of membership. I was surprised that EAA was so much into production aircraft, but I find that to be a healthy mix with the experimental aircraft. I don't know that either organization does me more good than the other, although I utilize AOPA more. I'll continue to support both as long as they are actively and successfully supporting GA. Ken Doyle Springfield, Mo Alon N5477E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:18:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Percy Pwood Georgia Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Changed pictured plane OK, Joa. I have updated the Oregon Ercoupe Erforce WWWeb page gallery to reflect your purchase. And you have my heartiest congratulations thereon. http://www.hevanet.com/pwood/couphome.htm Sure looking forward to meeting you and your family. Percy in Portland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:00:18 -0700 From: Bob Saville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: you should've been there [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > COUPERS > I DIDN''T DIE THIS MORNING, BUT I MUST'VE WENT TO HEAVEN. I WAS UP AT > SUNRISE ON THE DAWN OF A BEAUTIFUL DAY, AND ACTUALLY MANAGED TO GET TO THE > AIRPORT WITHOUT MY PAGER OR CELL PHONE INTERRUPTING MY PLANS. THE "BURGUNDY > BELLE" AND I LIFTED OFF THE RUNWAY JUST AS A BEAUTIFUL CASCADE OF VIOLENT RED > SUNBEAMS MADE IT'S WAY OVER THE DISTANT HORIZON. UP TO A THOUSAND FOOT OUT > NEAR THE CANYONS AND JUST A LITTLE PRAYER FOR THE WORLD AS GOD INTENDED FOR > ERCOUPE DRIVERS TO VIEW IT. THIS WAS INDEED WHAT MR. MCGEE MUST HAVE FELT > AND SEEN AS HE WROTE THE WORDS TO "HIGH FLIGHT" SO MANY YEARS AGO. > > POP DOWN THE SIDE WINDOWS, SET THE TRIM, POINT THE NOSE EAST BY SOUTH EAST, > AND WATCH THE SUNRISE AS ONLY A FLYER CAN WITNESS IT. > > DRAW IN A DEEP BREATH OF COOL MORNING AIR LACED WITH THE SMELL OF A RESIDUAL > RAIN SHOWER, AND KNOW THAT THIS IS THE START OF A WONDERFUL DAY. THEN TAKE A > MOMENT AND LINGER BELOW THE VAST EXPANSE OF FEATHERY LACY UMBRELLA CLOUDS > THAT GUARD THE LIGHT UPDRAFTS FROM YESTERDAYS WARMTH. > LINGER ONLY A FEW MOMENTS LONGER AND WATCH THE SUN AS IT BREAKS AWAY FROM THE > EARTH ON IT'S APPOINTED CLIMB UPWARD. > > SALUTE THE SUN, AND TURN SLOWLY TOWARD THE AIRPORT AND THE WAITING WORKDAY. > SMILE, FOR NOTHING CAN RUIN YOUR ELATION AT BEING THE FIRST ONE TO ESCORT > GOD'S MESSENGER ON ITS WAY TOWARD THE DAWNING OF A WONDERFUL NEW DAY > > JIM MILLER > ERCOUPE N94732 > > IN CASE ANYONE CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT, I WENT FLYING THIS MORNING AND IT WAS > INDEED A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT. Hi Jim, What an exellent post! If you'd re-arrange a few words to make them rhyme we'd have a "HIGH FLIGHT, II"! I've read it twice and have printed it off to keep in my "Collection of Memories". Bob Saville N3396H 415C Eugene, OR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:48:25 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nose strut leaks at top Coupers: I replaced the nose strut top bushing (called a "shock absorber") and coated it with DC-4 grease when I installed it. One short field landing and it started leaking out of the top again. Any more ideas? Anyone else solve this problem? David Denny wrote: > > David, > I had the same problem once. My mechanic at the time replaced the > rubber seal again and this time used a light grease instead of the oil he > used the first time. Worked just fine after that. Apparently the seal can > get malformed rather easily causing failure. > Denny > N93990 > Shawnee,KS > > At 09:17 AM 3/18/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Coupers: > > > >Due to a leaking corroded inner strut, I rebuilt my Alon's > >nose strut. After a thorough cleaning and replating the > >inner strut, the only parts I replaced were all the "O" > >rings. I now get intermittent leaks from the top (not the > >bottom as before), especially after short field landings > >which really exercise the strut - it leaks at the periphery > >of the big steel plug at the top of the shaft and the fluid > >runs down the outside. > > > >>From my recollection of the disassembled strut, the only > >causes for the leak could be the big rubber plug/seal under > >the steel plug or the two flat-head screws which hold the > >plug in place. I used a sealant on the threads of those > >screws. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:34:58 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gear Spacers on an Alon? While re-bushing my main gear and servicing the shocks, I discovered that my Alon has the famous .465" spacers above the springs, making the tail the correct height. I checked the parts manuals and can't find any record of an Alon having these as standard equipment. My aircraft logs don't have any mention of installation either. Just out of curiosity, did Alons come with the spacers, or should I be submitting a 337? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" David Smoler | __ | |==/__ยค_\==| *==========|==| () |==|===========* Alon A-2 | \____/ | N6359V s/n A35 () () () based at RHV """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:10:37 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: POEM (SORTA) "I AINT GONNA GO" "IF I CAN'T TAKE MY ERCOUPE" I AINT GONNA GO ! I WAS SPEAKING TO SAINT PETER, SO I SPOKE KINDA LOW I HEARD YOUR TRUMP SOUNDING AND IT MADE ME REAL PROUD BUT IF I'M SPEAKING FOR ME LORD I'LL SAY IT OUT LOUD IF I CANT FLY MY ERCOUPE, I AINT GONNA GO I JUST AINT A LEAVIN, I THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW ME AND THE COUPE BEEN TOGETHER FOR MANY A MILE SHE AINT NEVER BEEN UNHANGERED FOR EVEN A WHILE I APPRECIATE THE OFFER OF HEAVEN FROM YOU AND I'D TAKE UP YER OFFER IF THE COUPE YOU'D INCLUDE SO DONT GET ME WRONG LORD I THINK HEAVEN IS SWELL BUT WITHOUT MY OL COUPE THERE IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE LIKE --------- IF I CANT TAKE MY ERCOUPE, I AINT GONNA GO I WONT FLY COMMERCIAL, AND DRIVING IS TOO SLOW SO THANK YE FER THE OFFER AND RIGHT HERE I'LL JUST STAY I'LL BE CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT SHOULD THERE COME A GOOD DAY IF YOU EVER INCLUDE AIRPLANES AT YOUR PLACE IN THE SKY YOU WON'T HAVE TO CALL ME FOR THERE I WILL FLY SEND WORD OF A FLY-IN GIVE ME SOME PAVEMENT OF GRASS I'LL MEET YOU IN HEAVEN AND SHOW YOUR SHINDIG SOME CLASS, BUT IF ERCOUPES AINT WELCOME, JUST TAKE IT REAL SLOW, CAUSE IF I CAN'T FLY THE ERCOUPE, I AINT GONNA GO JIM MILLER OKAY GUYS AND GALS, I FIGURE YOU-ALL HAVE HAD ABOUT ENOUGH OF MY BACKWOODS POETRY AND SUCH, SO I WILL NOT SEND ANY MORE OF THIS STUFF FOR A WHILE. THANKS FOR GIVING ME SOMEONE TO WRITE TO ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:01:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Percy Pwood Georgia Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ercoupe day at the Museum of flight About that hundred Ercoupes showing up for the Boeing Museum of Flight Ercoupe fly in, Meg. May be Tom was just a bit optomistic. As Region Director for the Ercoupe Owners Club, it would make me proud, though... :-) Realistically, I can't see many more than we got for EAA Arlington, which was around a dozen. Weather is the biggest factor; if it is too bad, there won't be but the two or three that are native to BFI. Another factor is ATC. I still haven't an official word on how the class C will be handled for us without altitude-encoding transponers. The NORDO (non-radio) guys can formation up with a radio guy, and maybe that's how the transponders would work. Now, about that address left you. It is Tom's WWWeb page, not an email. Supposedly, your browser will get to the part where you can leave mail. URL is http://www.exmsft.com/~tom/wawing/Default.htm from Internet Explorer. Use the link off Tom's name. BTW, Tom is the co-wing leader for Washington. Please keep me informed - Percy in Portland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:05:29 -0600 From: "Jim Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: more on air use tax & MEDICAL This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE8214.4C2061E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I knew after several reply's that the lastest was a April's fool joke. = BUT back in the 80's there was a AIR USE TAX . We paid 25$ for the = Ercoupe per yr. to the FAA. Heavier airplanes paid more. Yes we really = paid to use God's air. Dad wrote our congressman at that time and found = out the law that put it into effect was a amendment to a agriculture = farm bill. It was a valid question when I asked if it was still in = effect. If it is not , when was it repealed? So I do know from both = being a pilot and a farmer that crazy laws do get passed and enforced. THE FAR that keeps me from flying as pilot in command is a Med. one. I = was diagnosesed as having "Angina Petrous(spelling?)" The Doc said it = just means Chest pains. Because of this diag. it means I would have to = get a special issuance Med. So whats the big deal? Will for one thing, I = couldn't afford the test's every six months, and for another it is just = about impossible to get the test and the results back to the FAA in the = time frame they give you. (and than, there is no guarantee that they = will issue the lic.) My med.examner had the same condition and he = couldn't get it done. I heard of a man in Sterling CO. that gets it done = by taking one test right on the heels of the other, I understand he can = afford the tests. This was for me 15 yr.s ago. I have not had any pains = or have not passed out or even got lightheaded because of this = condition, but the FAA say I might drop dead anytime so I can't fly. So = SO MIGHT ANY ONE OF YOU. They just kept me from my constitional right's = on the grounds of WHAT IF. I Guess I should of flown illegal, but I = haven't. I Soloed on my sixteenth birthday (In a Ercoupe) and I was 49 = when I had this happen and during the 33 yrs. I flew as pilot in command = I never once had anyone ask to see my lic. Someday I might sell my coupe = and get a ultralight. I'd rather fly the coupe, no pun intended. Jim 2749H - ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE8214.4C2061E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#c0e0c0> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I knew after several reply's that = the lastest=20 was a April's fool joke. BUT back in the 80's there was a AIR USE TAX . = We paid=20 25$ for the Ercoupe per yr. to the FAA. Heavier airplanes paid more. Yes = we=20 really paid to use God's air. Dad wrote our congressman at that = time and=20 found out the law that put it into effect was a amendment to a = agriculture farm=20 bill. It was a valid question when I asked if it was still in effect. If = it is=20 not , when was it repealed? So I do know from both being a pilot and a = farmer=20 that crazy laws do get passed and enforced.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>THE FAR that keeps me from = flying as pilot=20 in command is a Med. one. I was diagnosesed as having "Angina=20 Petrous(spelling?)" The Doc said it just means Chest pains. = Because=20 of this diag. it means I would have to get a special issuance Med. So = whats the=20 big deal? Will for one thing, I couldn't afford the test's every six = months, and=20 for another it is just about impossible to get the test and the results = back to=20 the FAA in the time frame they give you. (and than, there is no = guarantee that=20 they will issue the lic.) My med.examner had the same condition and he = couldn't=20 get it done. I heard of a man in Sterling CO. that gets it done by = taking one=20 test right on the heels of the other, I understand he can afford the = tests. This=20 was for me 15 yr.s ago. I have not had any pains or have not passed out = or even=20 got lightheaded because of this condition, but the FAA say I might drop = dead=20 anytime so I can't fly. So SO MIGHT ANY ONE OF YOU. They just kept me = from my=20 constitional right's on the grounds of WHAT IF. I Guess I should of = flown=20 illegal, but I haven't. I Soloed on my sixteenth birthday (In a Ercoupe) = and I=20 was 49 when I had this happen and during the 33 yrs. I flew as pilot in = command=20 I never once had anyone ask to see my lic. Someday I might sell my coupe = and get=20 a ultralight. I'd rather fly the coupe, no pun intended.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jim = 2749H</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BE8214.4C2061E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:34:22 -0700 From: "Joa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: airport gps coordinates on the net? Thanks for ALL your suggestions regarding which inexpensive GPS unit to purchase- I took it all into consideration and looked at *numerous* models before deciding on the Garmin 12 which was $146 at WalMart (where incidently I can bring it back up to three months from now if I change my mind.) This unit is only $50 more than the units that track 2 satellites instead of 12 plus it has tons of features including a map of waypoints that I can store. One nice thing about the G12 is that I can upload airport coordinates in from my PC and use them as waypoints (up to 500). It even has a feature that will even give me directions to one of 9 closest "proximity" waypoints which I can use if I need to find the closest airport in a hurry. I purchased a pc interface cable for $15 (including postage) and am going to download freeware for uploading waypoints. Compare this to the $90 that Garmin wants for their cable and software and its a pretty good deal. Now I just need to get a list of airport coordinates (I'm too lazy to input 500 coordinates by hand!) Would any of you folks happen to know of an electronic (on the net or perhaps a file you can send me) of airport gps coordinates for the west coast? Joa www.deschutes.net/~co291 "Vaircraft/CH-601 Building Page" _________________________ Oh ... if you think this is a nifty way to get a neat "aircraft" gps wait till you hear what I want to do with my gps and a palmtop. I found some software that will plot out *real time* my gps coordinates in a 3D topo picture. It will work on palm tops so basically I think I can hook my gps up to a WindowsCE palmtop and punch in my elevation (my gps doesn't have this feature- what do you expect for $150??!!! ;-) and I'll be able to have a 3D real time moving map. Pretty slick huh? Figure around $250 for the palmtop, $90 for the software, and $150 for the GPS and I've got myself a pretty nifty $500 GPS! Of course I haven't put this together yet so until I do don't quote me on any of this, and true to life it will never be as easy as I expect it to be! And then of course there's palmtops that have wireless internet access- real time satellite weather (doppler, visual, radar, temperature, local conditions, you name it) comes in handy when you're flying.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:03:17 -0500 From: Mi Vida Loca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: airport gps coordinates on the net? >Would any of you folks happen to know of an electronic (on the net or >perhaps a file you can send me) of airport gps coordinates for the west >coast? > >Joa Joa, If you will go to my WEB page you will find a link to "Paulo Santos' AirNav Airport Information", it will give you give you the coordinates and every other bit of info you will ever want on any given airport. <color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Dave 41 Charlie Dave's Ercoupe Page http://www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave </color>ICQ # 1388138 http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:04:17 -0500 From: Mi Vida Loca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ercoupe day at the Museum of flight > Another factor is ATC. I still haven't an official word on how >the class C will be handled for us without altitude-encoding >transponers. The NORDO (non-radio) guys can formation up with a >radio guy, and maybe that's how the transponders would work. If you fly in formation only one aircraft should have it's transponder on anyway, so not having a transponder is a moot point if there is one aircraft in the flight with one operating. If you do intend on flying in formation I really suggest you sit down with everyone involved and learn the standard hand signals. Since you will have aircraft without radios you must have some means of communicating. Hand signals are very effective. Also please have each member know his position and understand his responsibility in formation. Formation is quite safe as long as you understand the basics and get a little experience. If all members are inexperienced I would suggest no more than 3 in a flight in a vee formation. Try to get together at least once for practice before trying to blast in for the real thing. If you are not familiar with formation flying and have no one in the group with experience contact me and I will be happy to supply you with the hand signals and fill you in on the! ! ! bas ics. <color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Dave 41 Charlie Dave's Ercoupe Page http://www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave </color>ICQ # 1388138 http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 06:38:34 -0400 From: "Jerry Eichenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: more on air use tax & MEDICAL Jim - I thoroughly sympathize with you. Contanct EAA, as I understand = that the petition to the FAA to allow recreational pilots to self-certify = has either been re-filed, or will be shortly. As a couper, you could = probably fly 90% of your flights exercising only recreational privileges. Also, don't forget soaring. I'm also a glider pilot, and the rules have = allowed glider pilots to self-certify for decades. Ulltralights might be = OK for some, but I'll take a glider any day. Jerry Eichenberger Columbus, Ohio=20 N2906H ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:16:41 -0700 From: "Tom Laird-McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Boeing fly-in There is a mode C transponder exemption for that day. That's part of what the forms are that you print out. You are letting them know that you are coming in. All you need to do is report to the tower that you are coming in and have no mode-c. And they will say, "no problem" - -Tom - -----Original Message----- From: Percy Pwood Georgia Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:36 PM To: David M. Perozek Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boeing fly-in Hi, Dave & Tom. What about the Class B airspace `round BFI? Lots of us Oregon `coupers can't afford xponders (`specially lunbering dried up...). Percy in Portland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:29:04 -0600 From: "James W. Duffy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arizona accident This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE81F6.1045CB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ntsb report on the Arizona Ercoupe accident is now on the net at = http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/LAX?99a128.htm for those interested. Jim = N87349 UT. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE81F6.1045CB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The ntsb report on the Arizona = Ercoupe accident=20 is now on the net at <A=20 href=3D"http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/LAX?99a128.htm";>http://www.ntsb.gov/= aviation/LAX?99a128.htm</A>=20 for those interested. Jim N87349 UT.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE81F6.1045CB60-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:25:51 -0700 From: "Tom Laird-McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Arizona accident This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE8262.94435880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your URL didn't work, I ended up with http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/LAX/99A128.htm So it sounds like just severe turbelence upset at low altitude? Yikes! - -Tom -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James W. Duffy Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Arizona accident The ntsb report on the Arizona Ercoupe accident is now on the net at http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/LAX?99a128.htm for those interested. Jim N87349 UT. - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE8262.94435880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D490082515-09041999>Your=20 URL didn't work, I ended up with <A=20 href=3D"http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/LAX/99A128.htm";>http://www.ntsb.gov/= aviation/LAX/99A128.htm</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D490082515-09041999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D490082515-09041999>So it=20 sounds like just severe turbelence upset at low altitude? =20 Yikes!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D490082515-09041999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D490082515-09041999>-Tom</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<B>On=20 Behalf Of </B>James W. Duffy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 08, 1999 = 6:29=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Arizona=20 accident<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The ntsb report on the Arizona = Ercoupe=20 accident is now on the net at <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/LAX?99a128.htm";>http://www.ntsb.gov/= aviation/LAX?99a128.htm</A>=20 for those interested. Jim N87349 = UT.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BE8262.94435880-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:35:21 -0700 From: "Tom Laird-McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Boeing fly-in One more thing, there is detailed information on how to get to boeing field here http://www.wolfenet.com/~smckee/flyer.htm Including 2 picture diagrams showing what you need to know. Thanks Ron, for passing that information along. - -Tom - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Laird-McConnell Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 8:17 AM To: Ercoupe list Subject: RE: Boeing fly-in There is a mode C transponder exemption for that day. That's part of what the forms are that you print out. You are letting them know that you are coming in. All you need to do is report to the tower that you are coming in and have no mode-c. And they will say, "no problem" - -Tom - -----Original Message----- From: Percy Pwood Georgia Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:36 PM To: David M. Perozek Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boeing fly-in Hi, Dave & Tom. What about the Class B airspace `round BFI? Lots of us Oregon `coupers can't afford xponders (`specially lunbering dried up...). Percy in Portland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:15:44 -0700 From: "Robert L.Velez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arizona accident NTSB report This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE8293.74E1A1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is a copy of the preliminary report regarding the fatal ercoupe = accident that occurred in March in Kingman Arizona. I have landed in = this airport and it can get pretty rough at times. NTSB = Identification: LAX99FA128 Accident occurred MAR-20-99 at KINGMAN, AZ Aircraft: Ercoupe 415E, registration: N94818=20 Injuries: 2 Fatal.=20 This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain = errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final = report has been completed. On March 20, 1999, at 0923 hours mountain standard time, an Ercoupe = 415E, N94818, owned and operated by the pilot, experienced an in-flight = loss of control on approach to the Kingman Airport, Kingman, Arizona. = Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan was = filed. The airplane impacted level, desert terrain, and was destroyed. = The private pilot and passenger were fatally injured during the personal = flight that was performed under 14 CFR Part 91. The flight originated = from Lake Havasu City, Arizona, about 0830. The pilot was a member of = the Arizona Ercoupe Group, and along with other members, was = participating in its annual Wing Ding fly-in. The initial portion of the = flight involved traveling to the Kingman Airport, where breakfast was to = be served, and other activities related to the fly-in were planned. The = pilot's airplane was refueled, and he was observed to have performed a = preflight inspection of his airplane. Approaching the uncontrolled = Kingman Airport, the pilot broadcast his position. He did not indicate = that he was experiencing any difficulty controlling the airplane. Within = 10 minutes before and after the accident, other pilots in the group also = entered the Kingman traffic pattern. They reported to the National = Transportation Safety Board that moderate to extreme turbulence was = encountered in the pattern. Several pilots also reported experiencing = windshear while descending on the base and final approach legs. A = ground-based witness, located north of the airport, reported observing = the accident airplane's wings rolling right and left to nearly a = vertical bank. Thereafter, as the airplane turned (onto final approach) = toward the airport it rolled over and rapidly descended. The airplane = was found in an upright attitude approximately 0.6 mile north of the = approach end of runway 21, and was headed 280 degrees magnetic. All = flight control surfaces were found attached to the airframe. The engine = assembly was observed crushed in an aft and estimated 30 to 45 degree = upward direction. The propeller was found torsionally twisted, bent into = an "S" shape, scratched on its cambered surface in a chordwise = direction, and with its leading edge nicked. There was no evidence of = fire.=20 Safe flying Robert Velez N3516H - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE8293.74E1A1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Here is a copy of the preliminary report regarding = the fatal=20 ercoupe accident that occurred in March in Kingman Arizona. I have = landed in=20 this airport and it can get pretty rough at times.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> = =20 = =20 = =20 = =20 NTSB Identification:=20 <B>LAX99FA128</B></DIV> <P> <CENTER>Accident occurred MAR-20-99 at KINGMAN, AZ<BR>Aircraft: Ercoupe = 415E,=20 registration: N94818 <BR>Injuries: 2 Fatal. </CENTER> <P> <CENTER>This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may = contain=20 errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final = report has=20 been completed.</CENTER><BR> <DIV>On March 20, 1999, at 0923 hours mountain standard time, an Ercoupe = 415E,=20 N94818, owned and operated by the pilot, experienced an in-flight loss = of=20 control on approach to the Kingman Airport, Kingman, Arizona. Visual=20 meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan was filed. The = airplane=20 impacted level, desert terrain, and was destroyed. The private pilot and = passenger were fatally injured during the personal flight that was = performed=20 under 14 CFR Part 91. The flight originated from Lake Havasu City, = Arizona,=20 about 0830. The pilot was a member of the Arizona Ercoupe Group, and = along with=20 other members, was participating in its annual Wing Ding fly-in. The = initial=20 portion of the flight involved traveling to the Kingman Airport, where = breakfast=20 was to be served, and other activities related to the fly-in were = planned. The=20 pilot's airplane was refueled, and he was observed to have performed a = preflight=20 inspection of his airplane. Approaching the uncontrolled Kingman = Airport, the=20 pilot broadcast his position. He did not indicate that he was = experiencing any=20 difficulty controlling the airplane. Within 10 minutes before and after = the=20 accident, other pilots in the group also entered the Kingman traffic = pattern.=20 They reported to the National Transportation Safety Board that moderate = to=20 extreme turbulence was encountered in the pattern. Several pilots also = reported=20 experiencing windshear while descending on the base and final approach = legs. A=20 ground-based witness, located north of the airport, reported observing = the=20 accident airplane's wings rolling right and left to nearly a vertical = bank.=20 Thereafter, as the airplane turned (onto final approach) toward the = airport it=20 rolled over and rapidly descended. The airplane was found in an upright = attitude=20 approximately 0.6 mile north of the approach end of runway 21, and was = headed=20 280 degrees magnetic. All flight control surfaces were found attached to = the=20 airframe. The engine assembly was observed crushed in an aft and = estimated 30 to=20 45 degree upward direction. The propeller was found torsionally twisted, = bent=20 into an "S" shape, scratched on its cambered surface in a chordwise = direction,=20 and with its leading edge nicked. There was no evidence of fire. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Safe flying</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robert Velez</DIV> <DIV>N3516H</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE8293.74E1A1A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:53:19 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Head sets coupers, what headset works well with the windows open? I went out the other day with some borrowed David Clarks and the noise from the wind was terrible. (please don't tell me I was out of balanced flight). thanks in advance John n28932 Benton field (Redding ca) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:06:39 +0000 From: Michael Gartke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Wing Problem Yesterday I was removed the upper aft wing skin on my right wing to get in and replace a couple of ribs that I found cracks in and discovered the the lower spar cap was blown out with exfoliation corrosion. I am now looking for either a metalized right wing or a set of fabric covered wings. If anyone has a set they are interested in selling or knows of anyone who does or is parting out an aircraft please let me know. Thanks, Mike Gartke Ercoupe NC2022H ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:34:48 -0500 From: Mi Vida Loca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Head sets At 08:53 PM 4/9/99 EDT, you wrote: > >coupers, > what headset works well with the windows open? I went out the other >day with some borrowed David Clarks and the noise from the wind was terrible. >(please don't tell me I was out of balanced flight). > thanks in advance > John > n28932 > Benton field (Redding ca) > John, There is a company called Headsets Inc which makes a kit to convert about any headset to an ANR (Active Noise Reduction) for roughly $169. I converted mine and it makes a big difference. It cuts down the low frequency rumble that causes fatigue, etc. they have a web page at www.headsetsinc.com check'em out. BTW the offer a 30 day risk free warranty if you are not satisfied. Bose doesn't offer that. <color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Dave 41 Charlie Dave's Ercoupe Page http://www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave </color>ICQ # 1388138 http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:43:54 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Mogas source O.K., this may be a religious question for some of you but I'm interested in what you all think... where's the best place to buy Mogas for an 'Coupe approved to use it? Is there any one service station brand that is know for consistent, clean, fuel? BTW I plan on using the same clean gas cans all the time and will always use a filter in my funnel (the kind that filters out water and particles- Aircraft Spruce sells them.) (Before the 100LL advocates flame me please note that I am very aware of the arguments for using aviation fuel as opposed to Mogas- my flight instructor is the local FBO and is very opposed to auto fuel and has told me over and over all the horror stories and reasonings for not using the "wicked stuff". Of course I'm positive his suggestions have nothing to do with him selling 100LL to me at $2.00 a gallon!) Thanks! Joa '50 415G ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:48:42 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: airport gps coordinates on the net? A smart aleck at the airport had some late april fools day humor about the new GPS units with a polished stainless back. Seems that the front tells you your lost and you flip it over and it tells you WHO's lost... hehe. I mounted a Gamin GPS Pilot III in my coupe with the supplied mounting bracket above the glare sheild. The center post is in a perfect spot for anchoring it. If anyone would like a picture, I'd be happy to send it. Andy Pomeroy 2417H in Arlington, WA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:26:45 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Head sets I just got the Lightspeed 15K ANR headsets... oh man. what a differance! I'd thought about going the route you did Dave, but then I realized my sets weren't the most comfortable. So they would be quieter but uncomfortable. Tonight the differance was amazing. I traded off with my passenger and went back to the "old days". ANR is definatly worth having in a coupe. I suppose there will always be something better coming out but the 15k will keep me satisfied for awhile. by the way... I paid $275 for mine w/ bag and it comes with a 30 day return if not satisfied policy. Andy Pomeroy 2417H in Arlington, WA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:39:29 -0500 From: "Pat and Dallas Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Head sets This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE82EA.97BC22C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, I had the same problem when I flew my coupe with the windows open. I = just put the sponge microphone screen or sock over the microphone of my = Sigtronics. I don't have a problem anymore. They cost $1.75 apiece. = They are usually available at FBO's or Sporty's Pilot Shop catalog. = Nothing fancy, but does the job. Dallas N93555 -----Original Message----- From: Mi Vida Loca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Head sets =20 =20 At 08:53 PM 4/9/99 EDT, you wrote: > >coupers, > what headset works well with the windows open? I went out the = other=20 >day with some borrowed David Clarks and the noise from the wind was = terrible.=20 >(please don't tell me I was out of balanced flight). > thanks in advance > John > n28932 > Benton field (Redding ca) > John, There is a company called Headsets Inc which makes a kit to convert = about any headset to an ANR (Active Noise Reduction) for roughly $169. I = converted mine and it makes a big difference. It cuts down the low = frequency rumble that causes fatigue, etc. they have a web page at = www.headsetsinc.com check'em out. BTW the offer a 30 day risk free = warranty if you are not satisfied. Bose doesn't offer that. Dave 41 Charlie Dave's Ercoupe Page http://www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave ICQ # 1388138=20 http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE82EA.97BC22C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I had the same problem when I flew my coupe with the = windows=20 open. I just put the sponge microphone screen or sock over = the=20 microphone of my Sigtronics. I don't have a problem anymore. = They=20 cost $1.75 apiece. They are usually available at FBO's or Sporty's = Pilot=20 Shop catalog. Nothing fancy, but does the job.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dallas</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>N93555</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20 </B>Mi Vida Loca <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>><BR><B>T= o:=20 </B><A = href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>><B= R><B>Date:=20 </B>Friday, April 09, 1999 9:35 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Head=20 sets<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>At 08:53 PM 4/9/99 EDT, you=20 wrote:<BR>><BR>>coupers,<BR>> what headset works well with = the=20 windows open? I went out the other <BR>>day with some borrowed = David=20 Clarks and the noise from the wind was terrible. <BR>>(please = don't tell=20 me I was out of balanced flight).<BR>> thanks in advance<BR>>=20 John<BR>> n28932<BR>> Benton field (Redding=20 ca)<BR>><BR>John,<BR>There is a company called Headsets Inc which = makes a=20 kit to convert about any headset to an ANR (Active Noise Reduction) = for=20 roughly $169. I converted mine and it makes a big difference. It = cuts down=20 the low frequency rumble that causes fatigue, etc. they have a web = page at=20 www.headsetsinc.com check'em out. BTW the offer a 30 day risk free = warranty=20 if you are not satisfied. Bose doesn't offer = that.<BR><?color><?param ffff,0000,0000>Dave<BR>41 Charlie<BR>Dave's = Ercoupe=20 Page<BR>http://www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave<BR><?/color>ICQ # = 1388138=20 <BR>http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme = </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE82EA.97BC22C0-- ------------------------------ End of coupers-digest V1 #142 *****************************
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