We never totally took security as serious as how our members might
feel within the space. To make the environment safe, we took several
different precautions at spaces we managed.
Access
Thumb Access works very well. And a good money maker if coworker adds
a new employee to the space.
Alarm
DIY Alarm Systems work a lot better and more cost efficient than
joining ADT or alarm services. DIY Alarm Systems connect to your cell
phone directly if there is an issue in the space; from there you can
make an instant decision if you want to call 911 or visit the space
directly. DIY Alarm System are one time buys and has no on-going fees.
Great way to keep costs down. We used them specifically to maintain
access to a datacentre within a coworking space. Do note, DIY Alarm
are hard to find on the market. Must constantly keep your eyes open
for one and when you do see it - buy it. They are guaranteed to get
sold out fast.
Camera's
We have avoided the use of Camera's. We actually rely on our coworker
and members to be our eyes and ears. One way of doing this is the type
of members we have accepted in our managed spaces. Members are
friends, these are trusted professionals within a circle of
association who can work together, build together and save together.
When there is an issue, it effects everybody. This system creates an
internal law, safeguarding a community. When there is an issue,
everybody takes the blame. It only takes one warning to tame everybody
down and be able to respect the space they are in.
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On 9-May-11, at 1:22 PM, Alex Hillman wrote:
We've avoided incurring these costs by placing social systems in
place of technical systems. The fact is, things like cameras are
only any good if something bad has happened. We wanted to work on
trying to avoid that bad things from happening in the first place.
Making sure that members know each other is more valuable than just
"networking". People's shady-detectors are remarkably good if
they're given a chance to trust themselves, and more than once we've
had someone step up and suggest we keep a closer eye on somebody.
We're open for certain hours of the day to non-fulltime members, and
the only people with keys are full time members.
All that said, we've had two thefts take place inside of 4 years,
with over 100 members and thousands of people through our doors.
Both were "inside jobs", and we responded by improving our social
awareness instead of locking things down. In the most recent case,
we instituted a "three signature rule" for new full time members.
After 1 month of "waiting period", a new member needs to get 3
signatures from existing full time members that they trust them with
a key. This creates a simple structure for getting to know each
other a bit better over lunch, drinks, coffee, etc.
Does this prevent EVERYTHING bad from happening? Of course not. But
neither do cameras and other technical systems that are much easier
to game.
We firmly believe that having a community of trust is a 100% thing,
and we should lead by example. You'll never stop every bad thing
from happening, but there is a good chance you'll stop something
good from happening if you lock things down too much.
There's a finite number of bad things that can happen, but an
infinite number of good things. Be aware of the finite bad, and
mitigate in however you and your members feel comfortable.
-Alex
p.s. we're in Philadelphia, a city that's not particularly known for
a "low crime rate" and we still have a remarkably good track record.
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On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Joshua Marpet <jmar...@datadevastation.com
> wrote:
Cameras - Use unobtrusive domes and most people simply ignore them.
Supercircuits has some nice ones for 60 bucks, including night
vision. Get smoke colored domes, so people don't see the actual
camera lenses. dual nicety - 1. They ignore them 2. They don't know
where the lense is pointed, and so can't avoid them.
Door locks - swipe cards or RFID locks are easily copied, so long as
you have the technological know-how. However, key locks are even
worse. Any locksmith can copy them. Locks good enough and new
enough to still be patented are very very very expensive. Assa
Abloy locks are the only ones, actually. Anyways, for the right
balance of cost, security, and convenience, go with iClass HID RFID
locks. Not cheap, but not expensive, and most good locksmiths can
install. If you must do a key pad, then get a Hirsch Scramblepad.
The numbers change every time its used.
Alarm - check out frontpoint. You can issue temp codes, permanent
codes, key fobs, and arm/check the alarm status via iphone/android
apps.
Joshua
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Jenifer Ross <westchesterwatercoo...@gmail.com
> wrote:
Hey There Everyone-
I am about three weeks away from opening W@tercooler in Tarrytown,
NY, and have a few questions about security.
Does anyone use cameras? And if so, how does this work for you? Does
it help with making people feel "safer" about their stuff, or does
it instead feel more like Big Brother is watching?
Front Door Swipe Key Card vs Key Pad? Can anyone recommend a system
they have found to be best for full-time members accessing the space
after general hours? I'd prefer not to keep the current lock and key
as I'm nervous about folks making copies or past members still
having access to the space.
Alarm: I am planning to install an alarm system. For those who have
one, do you have full time members set it when they are the last to
leave? or does it automatically set itself at a particular time and
the last person leaving can simply lock up?
Thanks in advance for any input ;-)
Jen
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