Hi Dondi! I've heard about Comma and i'll make sure to pay a visit. We'll be very delighted to share ideas with you and friends at Comma, hope this would be a fantastic opportunity for us.
Success for Comma, and wish Us luck for The Nest Indonesia. On Friday, November 16, 2012 12:01:07 PM UTC+7, Dondi Hananto wrote: > > Hi Ranie and all others! > > Been lurking in this mailing list for about a month as we set up Comma, > our coworking space in Jakarta, Indonesia. Good to hear another soul > thinking about it in the country! > > You are very welcome to drop by our space when you are in town.. Let's > chat on your ideas and I'm sure we'll be able to learn from each other. Our > space is in soft launch since last week and will be fully open to public in > December > > There's one coworking space in Bandung: Hackerspace > http://hackerspaceid.org/ and I've been meaning to drop by but never got > the chance, do try to connect with them: @tyohan & @rezaprabowo in twitter > > > Cheers, > Dondi > @dondihananto > > > > On 15 November 2012 03:15, Alex Hillman <dangerous...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Hi Ranie, welcome to the group! Very cool to hear that you're working on >> something in Indonesia. >> >> 1. Here in Indonesia, coworking is a really new concept, does anybody >> know the best way to educate people about the coworking space concept? >> >> It's worth remembering that coworking is a really new concept in *most* >> places >> still, and even in the places where it's "known" most people haven't heard >> of it before. >> >> My favorite analogy to help people understand (and Brad from The Hub >> Melbourne used very similar language during is talk at Coworking Europe) is >> "it's like joining a club. you get to be a part of a community that also >> has a clubhouse that the members share to do work." >> >> 2. How to nail the community? is Jelly effective? >> >> Jelly is a great first brush with building a community because it doesn't >> cost anything and the barrier is really low for people to try it out. The >> key to Jelly leading to community is repetition: doing it on some regular >> interval is a lot more powerful than doing it once in a while. >> >> But jelly is just one kind of experience. By itself, it's not a >> community-builder. >> >> "Nailing the community" comes from working hard on three measurable >> factors: >> >> - Participation - people don't just show up, they contribute >> - Connections - people start to form relationships with other people >> in the group >> - Empathy - you and the other members don't have to agree on >> everything, but you establish common ground for understanding even within >> disagreements because disagreements are inevitable >> >> Jelly can help grow all three of these things in tandem…but there's >> countless other ways! >> >> 3. Freelancer or Start-up entrepreneur? Which one the most suitable to >> work at coworking space? >> >> Coworking is valuable for both, but there are pros and cons to both. >> >> In my experience, it's been a lot easier to build a sustainable community >> and business around freelancers than startups. This view might be unpopular >> given all of the love for startups in our world today, so I want to >> articulate what I've seen here at Indy Hall and elsewhere. >> >> I've found it to be more difficult to integrate a team's culture without >> a lot of extra work from them and for us. The team ends up being a >> mini-clique within the bigger community, which can weaken the entire >> community. >> >> Generally, freelancers tend to identify more with the "I'm alone" set of >> needs than startups do. Startups identify with wanting to be around other >> people but more for business networking and low-cost space. >> >> These two things *can *be complimentary, but they often create culture >> clash. >> >> The other factor is that startups have two "most likely" outcomes: they >> outgrow you, or they die. Either way, they're gone unless you've done a >> great job of integrating them into the community (in which case, they >> become part of your alumni and continue to contribute). >> >> And every multi-person startup that you lose to one of these fats needs >> to be replaced by another multi-person startup…meaning that you'll be in >> the same boat again before long. >> >> Every startup that's come to our coworking space has ended up leaving due >> to one of those two factors. We take that risk into consideration when >> teams join. >> >> Freelancers, on the other hand, tend to stay members for *much* much >> longer, keeping our churn down and ultimately building our community & >> business stronger. >> >> -Alex >> >> -- >> /ah >> indyhall.org >> coworking in philadelphia >> pre-order the new eBook, " <http://book.businessofcommunity.com?email>the >> business of community <http://book.businessofcommunity.com/?ref=email>" >> >> -- >> Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
