Right. Forgot that. For those users, that 6x8 office isn’t a fit. They’ll spend more than they need as well.
We offer free half hour meeting room usage, when unreserved, for cafe/lounge/hot desk users. This might only be good for the occasional phone user. Heavier phone usage would either have to be ok w/ calls in the open area (assuming their calls aren’t loud and would contribute to the overall buzz/white noise of the space). If these heavy phone usage are louder or require more privacy for client sensitivity, then an enclosed office makes a lot of sense. And then, if budget conscious, then 6x8. However, this does not mean this office member would be relegated to their office. We encourage any office member to work in any other lounge/cafe/shared areas to simply mix it up, interact with others, etc. At some point, the member has to both want to interact with a community and be willing to interact. Laziness, shyness, etc. can all set in though. One could aggregate all their calls on certain days, and remain at home. Or the opposite, Only come in on the days they’ve carved out as non-phone days. Jerome Www.BLANKSPACES.com > On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > "There are so many people who are just always on the phone or meeting clients > for coaching or whatnot and can't work in the open area but are dying for the > coworking community." > > This is a real problem, and one I think we're all interested in solving. I > just want to encourage thinking outside of the 6x8 box. > > And there's tons of brainpower on this list. So let's do an experiment. > > Imagine a 6x8' room was not an option. What other ways could we help this > kind of person's needs? > > > > ------------------ > The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. > Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org > Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com > My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten > >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com> wrote: >> I’ve personally worked in our 6x8 offices, and so have legions of others for >> months at a time. They’ve seemed pretty happy, as I have, too. I think >> plenty of people work differently enough, that no one solution fits. >> >> That said, Alex, what is it that you’re trying to solve that you think the >> bar is so low? Maybe I’ve missed your main point >> >> Jerome >> www.BLANKSPACES.com >> >>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:17 PM, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We have a bunch of 6x8 phone rooms. They're very comfortable. I'm so glad >>> we have them. >>> >>> They're well ventilated, ergonomically designed, and are NOT productive >>> spaces for every day use. >>> >>> That's the thing. It's not hard to give somebody something they need. But >>> is it actually better? Or even in their best interest? >>> >>> I don't buy it. I think we can come up with a truly better solution. The >>> bar is so low when we're talking about one that's literally the equivalent >>> to a prison cell. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------ >>> The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. >>> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org >>> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com >>> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> The strategy of making the office smaller is to offer a workspace that >>>> both offers an affordable price point, and a level of privacy/ergonomics >>>> that that member simply needs to be productive. >>>> >>>> Yes, one way is indeed like Alex says, which is to only come in to a >>>> Coworking space for certain types of work, but another way is to provide a >>>> physical space that actually does provide a space that one could be >>>> productive everyday. >>>> >>>> Jerome >>>> >>>>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I very much understand the problem, but the solution of "make the office >>>>> smaller" always feels short sighted to me. >>>>> >>>>> My best answer to folks whose work isn't coworking compatible looks like >>>>> this: >>>>> >>>>> "Do you have one (or two or three) days a month worth of work that isn't >>>>> that? >>>>> >>>>> Time you spend doing paperwork. Or research. Or strategic planning. Or >>>>> book keeping. Or.... >>>>> >>>>> I bet you do that stuff scattered throughout your month. It gets shoved >>>>> into corners and only done at the last minute. >>>>> >>>>> What if you picked one (or two or three) days a month to come to the >>>>> coworking space, be around other people, and get that other work that >>>>> doesn't require you to be behind closed doors, done? I bet you'd get it >>>>> done faster, and when you take a break or finish you'd have people to >>>>> talk to! >>>>> >>>>> If you have to grab a call or whatever while you're here, there's a spot >>>>> for that. But it works even better if you defend that productive time and >>>>> use it to make you or your business better in some way." >>>>> >>>>> Everybody wins. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------ >>>>> The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. >>>>> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org >>>>> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com >>>>> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:38 PM, John Sechrest <sechr...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> It really depends on what you mean by "office" >>>>>> >>>>>> If you mean the size of a room which one person is going to sit by >>>>>> themselves for the whole day working on projects, it would be different >>>>>> that the size of a room for someone to make a private call or to have a >>>>>> one on one meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> The phone booth size can be smaller than the 6*8 that people are listing >>>>>> as an office size. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was just at WeWork, they have little indents in the walls alone some >>>>>> of the hall ways. These must be 2.5 ft by 5 feet. But they are not >>>>>> closed off. these are like a crammed dinner seat for two people facing >>>>>> each other over a table. >>>>>> >>>>>> They also have one person phone booths, which are likely 3 x 3 - Enough >>>>>> for a bench and a shelf. >>>>>> >>>>>> These are closed with ventilation. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know another coworking space that I have a client at, where the room >>>>>> is not much bigger than 4x8. >>>>>> >>>>>> But that is an exception. There is likely reasons to have an office >>>>>> space be nicer like 6x8 or a bit better. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Angel Kwiatkowski >>>>>>> <fccowork...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Curious if any of you have pushed the limit of how small a micro-office >>>>>>> could be? There are so many people who are just always on the phone or >>>>>>> meeting clients for coaching or whatnot and can't work in the open area >>>>>>> but are dying for the coworking community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is your smallest office size? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Sechrest . 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