9' x 13' is perfect for this - that's almost exactly the size of space we use that doubles as a meeting room when it's not being used to record.
I'll update this thread in a few weeks as we have just launched an actual podcast community membership. Rather than turn our studio space into a commodity, we're making it part of a special sub-community. The most common thing I learned while talking to the folks who record shows is that almost none of them know or interact with other podcasters, but they wanted to. So for us, there won't be a way to "rent the studio" without first joining our podcast community. :) More soon! On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 3:19 PM Trevor Townsend <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all - I'm keenly watching this thread, too. I'm interested in a small > (really small, ~9'x13' room) sound room for podcasts, interviews, etc. The > rest of the time when not used like this it would a small (did I mention > small?) meeting room or huddle space. I'll be doing some of my own > podcasting, too, but not for about another 6 months or so. My overall > space is a ~1,000sqft coworking site in Aylmer, Quebec that will be opening > within a month (Mar/Apr 2019). > > Cheers, > Trevor > > On Saturday, 9 March 2019 14:57:40 UTC-5, Fred Gallagher wrote: >> >> Thanks Alex, I am looking at Podcastiong being part of our set up here in >> Donegal. It will help market the space and be an asset to the community as >> well. Cheers, Fred >> >> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 3:56:57 PM UTC+1, Alex Hillman wrote: >>> >>> Trevor's advice is rock solid. You can go CRAZY with recording >>> equipment, but a lot of it comes down to your goals. I also have the weird >>> perspective of having had a brief career in audio engineering when I was a >>> lot younger, so I learned a lot about how to suss out the best on a budget. >>> >>> We don't have a dedicated studio but we do have all of the gear >>> available in one of our meeting rooms, which we've also given some light >>> (but essentially invisible) acoustic treatment. >>> >>> We decided to keep it simple and focus on people recording 1 or 2 people >>> max (but the same setup would be easy to upgrade to 4x) >>> >>> - This Tascam 2x2 Audio Interface >>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F07ca2455-6513-46ba-8e1c-50ffa0992761%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252FB00MIXF2RS%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D9cec4e4154606375d1b69b754472d26a/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom> >>> is >>> $150 USD. It takes approx 60 seconds for any mere mortal to learn even if >>> they've never used a piece of audio gear. The quality is very good for the >>> price, you can get slightly better for more but not that much better >>> without spending way more. >>> - We got a pair of these Shure 87A's >>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F3aac300d-fbab-4583-9882-9715036f1eba%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252FShure-Supercardioid-Condenser-Microphone-Applications%25252Fdp%25252FB0002BACBO%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D5c927ad6315fe819915b52feddf90458/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom> >>> and they are incredible. You want the *super-cardioid* style because >>> they are VERY directional, basically only picking up the person directly in >>> front of the microphone. This removes crosstalk of your people being picked >>> up on each others' microphones, and even more importantly, makes it so you >>> don't need an isolation booth to keep the outside world out of your audio. >>> Good >>> microphones make everything else easier. We've had ours for 3ish years >>> now, there might be a newer option out there but I'm very very very happy >>> with these microphones. >>> - Basic XLR cables to go between the Tascam and the microphones are >>> pretty cheap, you can get whatever Amazon recommends. >>> - Since we use the room for things other than recording, we learned that >>> the spring loaded boom stands are in the way the rest of the time....and >>> frankly the cheaper ones fall apart quickly anyway. More recently we opted >>> for tabletop microphone stands like these >>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F66e1495d-e319-459b-8138-222ed68f12c1%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252FAdjustable-Foldable-Microphone-Meetings-Lectures%25252Fdp%25252FB01DXVYCT2%25252Fref%25253Dsr_1_8%25253Fs%25253Dmusical-instruments%252526ie%25253DUTF8%252526qid%25253D1523544188%252526sr%25253D1-8%252526keywords%25253Dmicrophone%25252Bstand%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3Da65c22a98410bb767350ceb8be9e160d/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom> >>> . >>> - Get pop filters >>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F0c78c035-14d0-4a98-9114-f96d04a5b8a2%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252FProfessional-Microphone-Stabilizing-Recordings-Broadcasting%25252Fdp%25252FB01N21H9WY%25252Fref%25253Dsr_1_3%25253Fs%25253Dmusical-instruments%252526ie%25253DUTF8%252526qid%25253D1523544258%252526sr%25253D1-3%252526keywords%25253Dpop%25252Bfilter%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D1c73b8593e50d206602b384d15d61091/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom>. >>> Trust me. >>> - This is a "nice to have" but a good idea: we got one of these headphone >>> splitters >>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2Faaf234fc-ae0e-400f-a30a-2f7f533f0b6c%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252FB01HO60NFO%25252Fref%25253Dasc_df_B01HO60NFO5437058%25252F%25253Ftag%25253Dhyprod-20%252526creative%25253D395033%252526creativeASIN%25253DB01HO60NFO%252526linkCode%25253Ddf0%252526hvadid%25253D193992629021%252526hvpos%25253D1o5%252526hvnetw%25253Dg%252526hvrand%25253D11491270912710683610%252526hvpone%25253D%252526hvptwo%25253D%252526hvqmt%25253D%252526hvdev%25253Dc%252526hvdvcmdl%25253D%252526hvlocint%25253D%252526hvlocphy%25253D9007285%252526hvtargid%25253Dpla-309645350540%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D1d1dfaca4652da1545d31695fbd20330/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom> >>> so >>> that at *least *the host could put on a pair of headphones on to listen >>> in live and make sure the audio quality is good. Some guests like wearing >>> studio headphones too. Many don't (it's weird AF to listen to yourself in >>> real time as you talk and takes practice getting used to). I like having >>> both options and for $7 yeah. >>> >>> I also really like the ATR2100's as a microphone to keep in my backpack >>> for doing things like intros and ad reads, but for the studio I wanted >>> something that would make editing easier and better mics will essentially >>> always cut time/costs on the editing side. >>> >>> That's about it for audio gear. With this setup people can record >>> directly into their own computers using Garage Band (mac only) or Audacity >>> (cross platform) both of which are pretty easy to learn the basics on >>> Youtube, or through a quick informational session as a newbie on the >>> recording rig. >>> >>> For the room itself, our room happens to be a strange shape (one wall is >>> at a 45 degree of the rest) which is good for keeping the sound from >>> bouncing around at right angles. Our floors are carpeted with basic FLOR >>> carpet tiles, and ceilings have basic acoustical tiles in the grid. *The >>> big thing is to avoid or hide unnecessary flat/glossy surfaces cuz they are >>> echo machines.* We hung a curtain rod over our whiteboard so a curtain >>> could be pulled to cover it. We also mounted some foam tiles *behind* 3 >>> pieces of art, basically tucked inside the recess of the canvas. The art >>> looks awesome and the panels help soak up some sound. >>> >>> With the door closed on this room there's a *little* bit of sound >>> leakage if someone is being loud on either side, but those super-cardioid >>> microphones don't pick up anything unless you're within a few inches of the >>> mic. >>> >>> *The best part about the podcasting setup is how it's brought people >>> together. * >>> >>> We have members who know how to use the rigs, do basic editing, podcast >>> promo/marketing, etc. This means newbies interested in creating a show can >>> turn to each other for help. I know Trevor's crew has a whole podcast >>> network in place, which is something we're definitely aspiring towards this >>> year. >>> >>> The other really cool thing is how it's been a way to invite people who >>> don't come to work during the day to come and hang out, and introduce their >>> podcast guests to Indy Hall. >>> >>> We don't charge for recording time right now, you just need to be a >>> member. In a few cases we've started asking people to mention us in the >>> show, especially if we know that their audience overlaps with ours. >>> >>> In more than one case, a podcast has become someone's "gateway drug" for >>> getting more connected into our community. Plus it's hella fun. >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------ >>> *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.* >>> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org >>> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com >>> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Trevor Twining <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Craig, >>>> >>>> There's no easy options here, just trade-offs. So you're going to need >>>> to understand your intended use more. >>>> >>>> Our first studio fit in a rubbermaid box and cost less than 500 >>>> Canadian dollars. We added things over time as people expressed interest. >>>> Now we have mobile kit and a studio kit. We just make the room available to >>>> our subscribers. No extra charge. First come, first served. Treating the >>>> room also made it better suited to hosting and participating in webinars, >>>> conferences, and video recording. So we also got a light kit, a green >>>> screen, and now we're getting into more video work as well. >>>> >>>> Add some versatility to your mic setup by going with the ATR 2100s. >>>> You'll get a great-sounding mic that works in rooms with some noise, but >>>> can also just plug into a computer using USB. This makes it easy for >>>> someone using the studio solo to just hook up direct. >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2100-USB-Cardioid-Dynamic-Microphone/dp/B004QJOZS4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523530223&sr=1-1&keywords=atr2100 >>>> >>>> A mixer will make it easy for people just getting started to use the >>>> audio, but you'll need an audio interface rather than a mixer if you want >>>> each mic to be on a separate track. A mixer will take each of those tracks >>>> and 'mix' it down to two stereo tracks, which then goes into the computer's >>>> typical sound card. An audio interface takes each input and brings it >>>> directly into the computer. This means you can enhance each track >>>> independently. The trade-off is that it's more complicated to edit the >>>> audio in some ways (more than we have time for here). The long and the >>>> short of it is that producers will all have different expectations, and >>>> you'll need to be ready to cater to them and explain how your setup works >>>> so that they can decide if it's suitable. We found that people with >>>> existing shows were already set in their ways about how they wanted their >>>> setup to operate. One way we moved past that at first was we targeted >>>> people who had no podcast experience and helped them get started. So our >>>> gear was the first gear they used. >>>> >>>> Lastly, you're going to get more bang for your buck by spending some of >>>> that budget on sound treating the room. How's that set up? >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy to assist further if I'm able. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:26:34 PM UTC-4, Craig Baute - Creative >>>> Density Coworking wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just had a coworking friend from Charlotte stop by and he mentioned >>>>> how much their podcasting studio is adding energy to his space. So I >>>>> talked >>>>> around and I can feel some of the same excitment building in our community >>>>> when I bring it up here. >>>>> So we are converting an interior office into a podcast studio. I want >>>>> it to have professional equipment that is easy to use. This isn't going to >>>>> be the highest end but good for business to make quality podcasts that >>>>> sound great. We are doing this for a few reasons: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. The community wants one - granted not many but three members >>>>> would use it >>>>> 2. Offices aren't exciting to me. >>>>> 3. Competition is high in Denver for offices so this interior one >>>>> sits up 2 to 3 months out of the year and doesn't pull in much money, >>>>> $500, >>>>> even when it is rented. >>>>> 4. It's new way to get people to create is fun and is a driver to >>>>> building a community >>>>> 5. Anytime you give your community a tool to create it builds an >>>>> opportunity to bond over. >>>>> 6. It should bring in revenue than the office. I'm hoping for 50% >>>>> higher. >>>>> >>>>> I'm coming at this from a fairly naive perspective right now so I >>>>> would love some feedback. Here is what I'm thinking. The podcasting studio >>>>> will cost me around $700 in new furniture, purchased from IKEA. I'm >>>>> looking >>>>> into this equipment which will cost me about $1500. >>>>> >>>>> 4 of these mic set ups, >>>>> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Rode-Procaster-Booming-Kit-cable/dp/B00D390QZO/ref=pd_sbs_267_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00D390QZO&pd_rd_r=DZAKK8A0ZPHPCEQ2QSS0&pd_rd_w=mr88U&pd_rd_wg=fpqG9&psc=1&refRID=DZAKK8A0ZPHPCEQ2QSS0 >>>>> >>>>> 4 channel mixer >>>>> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDRUQXC/?coliid=I9QYQX1O17AXM&colid=PMLMWDDYP2ZY&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it >>>>> >>>>> *Does anyone have any experience with a podcasting studio, things to >>>>> try, pitfalls to avoid, etc?* >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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