On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steffen Schwigon wrote:

> >
> >> Ok, I generally understand your rationale, so even if I'm not convinced,
> >> let's continue: how would you proceed after you have opened tickets on
> >> all dependent modules?
>
>
> > then I will track what happens. probable replies:
> > 1. STFU. I don't care
> > 2. I looked on the problem and it does not affect my module on my target
> > platforms. so, I don't care
> > 3. Pinging Test::Class author, and getting him to fix it
> > 4. Pinging T::C author, got a comaint and fixed it myself
> > 5. ticket ignored
>
> Hm, in IT this is called a Distributed Denial of Service attack.
>
>
Distributed Request for Service? DRoS?


> You already have your use-case: Test::Class does not work for you. So
> let's continue to analyze this single case:
>
>  - What did you already try to help the author?
>

A ticket was created, with a patch.


>  - Why did your help not resolve the issue?
>

Ticket was ignored.


>  - What else can you do? Or,
>    what are your reasons you can not do more?
>

I can ask for comaint.
Sorry, won't do that anymore. I already took over two modules, and it is a
lot of hard work to learn and maintain somebody's else code.
I can contribute a patch, but no more.


>  - What are the author's reasons he cannot solve the issue?
>

I don't know. the ticket was ignored.


>  - Will more quantity solve the quality issue? Why will it?
>

Maybe an author will be motivated enough to push so it will be fixed?
Maybe Test::Class author will see that there are a lot of people that are
concerned about the his module failing to install that he will fix it
himself?

Then scale up the thinking to all CPAN:
>
>  - What is the calculated criteria or barrier before auto-generating
>    tickets?
>

If a module have test failures and was released more then a month ago, I
think that we can generate tickets.


>  - Will every author have the same reasons for not solving issues, so
>    that there is indication the same approach will help the other
>    author's, too?
>

I don't understand the question.


>  - Will this automation-approach scale-up to a huge bi-directionally
>    connected matrix of several thousand authors and users?
>  - How do you automatically track and close these multi-thousands of
>    automatically generated tickets?
>

I only need to open and track them, not close.


Shmuel.

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