At 01:37 AM 3/23/02 -0500, dmolnar wrote: >(See, the information-only goods don't count. they're not REAL ENOUGH.
What we need is FedEx crossed with _Bladerunner_ or _The Postman_ somehow interstitial to the meatspace mafia (govt). The difficulties with the meat:info interface has been well discussed here. >Recently we saw this question echoed by Morlock Elloi -- are there >compelling reasons to ask for privacy and anonymity, besides the fact that >a bunch of (unemployed) cypherpunks are True Believers? High schoolers who get busted for private sites might be teaching, by example, their peers about the value of anonymity. >hell, is the temporary autonomous zone still what "cypherpunks is about"? Even if restricted only to Brittney/Stealth plans, its a *part* of it. But lets remember the *triumphs* of the last decade, which were not brought up last time this was discussed: * I use VPN to connect to work, daily * Every book I've bought for the last several years, and a good deal of ammo, has been via SSL * Regular use of PGP, between radically different platforms, with more paranoid colleages * Stego -but if I told you, I'd have to kill you * I've not gone into a physical bank in years, but my ATM uses crypto With the possible exception of PGP, you don't have to understand these to use them. * Every middle-rate university now has crypto courses and there are crypto libraries for every language/platform out there Things look real good for the *next generation*, folks -the ones who think the (100) million bytes/MIPS/pixels machine belongs in the Smithsonian, along with its phone modem... call 'em generation Napster or the generation Broadband, whatever... kids have many more secrets than adults, since kids have parents and police Panopticonning them...