Dear Simon,
Your argument well taken, I hope I have not been misunderstood: In the
case of the 12 spoons, forks, and knives, one may argue that as long as
the majority of parts is in the hands of the curator, he has keept it,
even if every piece has temporarily left his hands. This is different
from marking the chassis. One could even allow for all parts being
exchanged, if the object's identity is defined respectively. I'd regard
these as different ways to define a representative part. I believe they
are all acceptable, as long as they do not come in conflict with the
natural concept of identity of the object, and do not cause ambiguity
about who has the object and who the parts. With the cutlery, indeed
someone could be regarded keeper of the whole, and all parts
dissapearing into different hands, leaving the keeper of the whole with
nothing in his hands. I think this should be avoided. Does that make
sense?
Cheers,
Martin
On 5/10/2015 7:07 μμ, Simon Spero wrote:
I would argue that the extreme case is not the set of cutlery, but the
Ship of Theseus- or more practically, the Car of Enzo.
For models such as the 250 GTO, it is very much the provenance in
association with the chassis number that determine the identity over
time.
If a vehicle is crashed, then restored without a transfer of custody,
any application of the new scope note may be post hoc.
Simon
On Oct 5, 2015 10:13 AM, "martin" <mar...@ics.forth.gr
<mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:
Dear All,
Issue:
P49:
This shortcut supposes the existence of at least one
representative part standing physically for the whole. Discuss
knowledge revision process if a piece taken to be the
representative of the whole must be regarded piece of another.
Things kept may have parts in other hands.
A comment should be stated. Steve, MD, Athinak should think together
I propose the scope note addition:
Scope note:This property identifies the E39 Actor or Actors who
have or have had custody of an instance of E18 Physical Thing at
some time. This property leaves open the question if parts of this
physical thing have been added or removed during the time-spans it
has been under the custody of this actor, but it is required that
at least a part which can unambiguously be identified as
representing the whole has been under this custody for its whole
time. For instance, in the extreme case of a set of cutlery we may
require the majority of pieces having been in the hands of the actor.
Best,
Martin
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