The sub classes of appellation, e.g. actor appellation and place appelletion were introduced in crm around 2001-2002. At that time there was a view that there were special characteristica for place name and actor names which made it possible to detect and differenciate between them. This has been proven to be a not correct assumption. In pre industrial societies, at least in Norway, the name and the "address" were mixed. The subclasse tree of E41 is E41 Appellation E42 - Identifier E44 - Place Appellation E45 - - Address E46 - - Section Definition E47 - - Spatial Coordinates E48 - - Place Name E49 - Time Appellation E50 - - Date E75 - Conceptual Object Appellation E82 - Actor Appellation E51 - Contact Point E45 - - Address E35 - Title Do we really want to delete all but E35 Title, E45 Address and E47 Spatial Coordinates? Best Christian-Emil ________________________________ From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of martin <mar...@ics.forth.gr> Sent: 02 August 2016 19:28 To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] E82 Actor Appellation Issue I also vote for complete removal, together with all others except for Title, address and coordinates On 2/8/2016 11:30 πμ, Stephen Stead wrote: The scope note and examples of E82 Actor Appellation do not clearly convey the idea that the appellation must be of a form that is characteristically an appellation of an actor. This is causing confusion in the user community. One alternative is to retire E82 altogether and the other is to update the scope note. I would vote for deprecation/retirement. I have also suggested a new scope note and changed examples:- E82 Actor Appellation Subclass of: E41 Appellation Scope note: This class comprises any sort of name, number, code or symbol characteristically used to identify an E39 Actor. An E39 Actor will typically have more than one E82 Actor Appellation, and instances of E82 Actor Appellation in turn may have alternative representations. The distinction between corporate and personal names, which is particularly important in library applications, should be made by explicitly linking the E82 Actor Appellation to an instance of either E21 Person or E74 Group/E40 Legal Body. If this is not possible, the distinction can be made through the use of the P2 has type mechanism. Examples: § “John Doe” § “Doe, J” § “the U.S. Social Security Number 246-14-2304” § “the Artist Formerly Known as Prince” § “the Master of the Flemish Madonna” § “Raphael’s Workshop” § “the Brontë Sisters” § “ICOM” § “International Council of Museums” E82 Actor Appellation Subclass of: E41 Appellation Scope note: This class comprises any sort of name, number, code or symbol characteristically used to identify an E39 Actor. That is the very form of the name indicates that it is an appellation of an instance of E39 Actor. An E39 Actor will typically have more than one E82 Actor Appellation, and instances of E82 Actor Appellation in turn may have alternative representations. The distinction between corporate and personal names, which is particularly important in library applications, should be made by explicitly linking the E82 Actor Appellation to an instance of either E21 Person or E74 Group/E40 Legal Body. If this is not possible, the distinction can be made through the use of the P2 has type mechanism. Examples: § the U.S. Social Security Number “246-14-2304” § UK Company Number “2374216” § Leonardo da Vinci’s ULAN identifier “ULAN500010879” Rgds SdS Stephen Stead Director Paveprime Ltd 35 Downs Court Rd Purley, Surrey UK, CR8 1BF Tel +44 20 8668 3075 Fax +44 20 8763 1739 Mob +44 7802 755 013 E-mail ste...@paveprime.com<mailto:ste...@paveprime.com> LinkedIn Profile http://uk.linkedin.com/in/steads _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr<mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | | Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr> | | Center for Cultural Informatics | Information Systems Laboratory | Institute of Computer Science | Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | | N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | | Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | --------------------------------------------------------------
