Dear All,
I received the following interesting message from Maliheh.
Indeed, the CRM gives an answer, but not a complete one:
I recommended to Maliheh the example of P12 Production in the CRM
definition about the versioning of Rembrandt's etching plates. We
propose there a combination of E12, E65, and E81 Transformation, rather
than Modification for this problem.
So, we describe the whole plate as a series of objects undergoing
transformations between them. I am convinced that this is correct,
but...this is a subtle question about identity, which has not
exhaustively be answered in science and the CRM, as appears. Basically,
we have phases of an object, which constitute objects in their own
right, a sort of temporal parts.
It is similar to versioning of documents, but the material nature
necessarily requires the destruction of the precursor. Nevertheless, we
need an answer how the identity of the whole relates to these "parts".
It is similar to the discussion in FRBRoo / LRMoo about the parts of a
Work, which may be simultaneous or sequential or overlapping temporally.
So, even though in principle this is a sort of parthood, it may be
confusing to use "consists of" for temporal parts of material objects.
More generally, I do support that the same amount of matter may
participate in multiple objects, depending on the identity criteria
provided by the respective class. E.g., living person and mummy can be
seen as one or two things, i.e. as three things altogether. A person may
be defined from conception to bodily decay, or from birth to clinical
death. In all these cases, we need a relationship between the larger and
the smaller unit. There may be other cases of overlap, not only temporal
sequence, but let us discuss the art object first.
Opinions?
Best,
Martin
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Subject: Modification
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:08:33 +0430
From: Maliheh Dorkhosh <m.dorkh...@gmail.com>
To: Martin Doerr <mar...@ics.forth.gr>
Dear Martin
My research is in the field of painting. The image of one of the
paintings has been modified. To show this modification, according to the
graph attached to this email, we have a modification event and we have
two images(E38).
I think there must be a property between the two images. I searched a
lot in the CIDOC but I did not find the desired relationship. Please
guide me.
Best,
Maliheh
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