NO

The examples are inconsistent with regards to the use of the class numbers,
both internally and in relation to other examples.

Secondly, the transformation should be physical -- the /use/ of a church as
a stable is not /necessarily/ a physical transformation. A clearer example
should be selected please.

Rob


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:35 AM George Bruseker <george.bruse...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In 11/2018 a discussion was started to revise the scope note of E81
> Transformation and to change the ranges of its relative properties p123 and
> p124. In brief, it was argued that the range of the class was too broad
> (E77 Persistent Item) and that it should be limited to E18 Physical Thing.
> This change was accepted. You can find the history here:
>
>
> http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-404-modification-of-scope-notes-and-ranges-for-e81-p123-p124
>
> To support the new definition of the class and its properties new examples
> were sought after. The HW was assigned to ET and AK. They have come up with
> the following examples for the classes and relations in question.
>
> The proposed examples are to be found in the text pasted below.
>
> Please vote if you accept the examples. You can vote yes, yes with caveat
> or no with explanation. Please vote by October 16, 2020.
>
> E81 Transformation
>
> Subclass of:  E63 Beginning of Existence
>
> E64 End of Existence
>
>
> Scope note:
>
> This class comprises the events that result in the simultaneous
> destruction of one or more than one E18 Physical Thing and the creation of
> one or more than one E18 Physical Thing that preserves recognizable
> substance and structure from the first one(s) but has fundamentally
> different nature or identity.
>
> Although the old and the new instances of E18 Physical Thing are treated
> as discrete entities having separate, unique identities, they are causally
> connected through the E81 Transformation; the destruction of the old E18
> Physical Thing(s) directly causes the creation of the new one(s) using or
> preserving some relevant substance and structure. Instances of E81
> Transformation are therefore distinct from re-classifications (documented
> using E17 Type Assignment) or modifications (documented using E11
> Modification) of objects that do not fundamentally change their nature or
> identity. Characteristic cases are reconstructions and repurposing of
> historical buildings or ruins, fires leaving buildings in ruins, taxidermy
> of specimen in natural history.
>
> Examples:
>
>    - the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (transformation of
>    Tut-Ankh-Amun from a living person to a mummy) (E69, E81, E7)
>    - The death and petrification of the people of Pompeii during the
>    eruption of Vesuvius in the first century B.C (E69, E81, E7)
>    - The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
>    from a church to a stable for the French cavalry in 1795 (following
>    Napoleon’s invasion)
>    - The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
>    building from printing house to a bookshop in 2006
>
>
> In First Order Logic:
>   E81(x) ⊃ E63(x)
>   E81(x) ⊃ E64(x)
>
> Properties:
> P123 resulted in (resulted from): E18 Physical Thing
> P124 transformed (was transformed by): E18 Physical Thing
>
> P123 resulted in (resulted from)
>
> Domain:  E81 Transformation
> Range:  E18 Physical Thing
> Subproperty of: E63 Beginning of Existence. P92 brought into existence
> (was brought into existence by): E77 Persistent Item
> Quantification: many to many, necessary (1,n:0,n)
>
> Scope note: This property identifies the E18 Physical Thing or things that
> are the result of an E81 Transformation. New items replace the transformed
> item or items, which cease to exist as units of documentation. The physical
> continuity between the old and the new is expressed by the link to the
> common Transformation.
>
> Examples:
>
>    - the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a city
>    hall (E81) resulted in the City Hall of Heraklion (E22)
>    - the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81) resulted in the
>    Mummy of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E22 and E20)
>    - The death and the carbonization by the intense heat of a 300 °C gas
>    cloud (E69) of the people of Pompeii resulted in  petrified and later
>    preserved in plaster bodies (E22).
>    - The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
>    into a stable (E81) resulted in Stable for the French Cavalry (E22)
>    - The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
>    into a bookstore (E21) resulted in the Selexyz Dominicanen bookstore (E22)
>
> In First Order Logic:
>   P123(x,y) ⊃ E81(x)
>   P123(x,y) ⊃ E18(y)
>   P123(x,y) ⊃ P92(x,y)
>
> P124 transformed (was transformed by)
>
> Domain:  E81 Transformation
>
> Range:  E18 Physical Thing
>
> Subproperty of: E64 End of Existence. P93 took out of existence (was taken
> out of existence by): E77 Persistent Item
>
> Quantification: one to many, necessary (1,n:0,1)
>
> Scope note: This property identifies the E18 Physical Thing or things that
> have ceased to exist due to a E81 Transformation.
>
> The item that has ceased to exist and was replaced by the result of the
> Transformation. The continuity between both items, the new and the old, is
> expressed by the link to the common Transformation.
>
> Examples:
>
>    - the transformation of the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion into a city
>    hall (E81) transformed the Venetian Loggia in Heraklion (E22)
>    - the death and mummification of Tut-Ankh-Amun (E81) transformed the
>    ruling Pharao Tut-Ankh-Amun (E21)
>    - The death and the petrification of the people of Pompeii during the
>    eruption of Vesuvius transformed the people of Pompeii (E21)
>    - The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
>    into a stable for the French cavalry (E91) transformed the Dominicaner Kerk
>    building in Maastricht.
>    - The transformation of the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht
>    into a bookstore transformed the Dominicaner Kerk building in Maastricht.
>
>
>
> Very much obliged,
>
> George Bruseker
> Vice Chair CIDOC CRM SIG
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Yale University
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