I think this sounds right and consistent with the CRM introduction:

"the subproperty inherits the definition of all of the properties declared for its superproperty without exceptions (strict inheritance), in addition to having none, one or more properties of its own."

Thanasis

On 12/08/2022 10:39, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote:
Hi all,

This is for the .1 fans out there. I think it's an old discussion, but one perhaps not unworth repeating. There are places where .1 is introduced like 'P14 carried out by' which allow you to qualify the relation's mode or aspect. Participated as lawyer, as doctor etc.

Now P14 has subproperties. These specialize the top level property. So we have a property like:

https://cidoc-crm.org/Property/P23-transferred-title-from/version-7.1.1 <https://cidoc-crm.org/Property/P23-transferred-title-from/version-7.1.1>

However, P23 doesn't have .1. And yet, people record information that modifies such properties in precisely the same way as above.

So right now we can say:

E.g.:
Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P23 transferred title from French State (E74) Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P22 transferred title to American State (E74) Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P24 transffered title of Statue of Liberty (E22)

But people also record:

Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P23 transferred title from French State (E74) [Gifter] Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P22 transferred title to American State (E74) [Giftee] Gifting of Statue of Liberty (E8) P24 transferred title of Statue of Liberty (E22)

This is not inconsequential information but rather important as you might document different ways in which people interact in the exchange of ownership of things.

This forces one to retreat to P14 but then one isn't using the standard property for transfer of ownership etc.

Therefore, I propose that it be discussed that such properties receive the downsteam .1 from their superproperties for logical consistency and for accurate repesentation.

Thoughts?

George


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