Dear all, As Øyvind point out, the part removal class is a subclass of activity and thus all instances represents "actions intentionally carried out by instances of E39 Actor ". An accident, landslide, earthquake etc is an instence of E5 Event but not of A7 Activity.
The negative statement "missing a part (arm, title) is based on a belief that the object in question once was complete. So this should perhaps be modeled in CRMinf? Best, Christian-Emil ________________________________ From: Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Øyvind Eide via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> Sent: 17 October 2023 12:57 To: Martin Doerr Cc: crm-sig Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue, missing part of type Dear Martin, E80 Part Removal has E7 Activity as a superclass, thus, a part removed without any agent being responsible is not intended it seems. As to accidents made by agents: we would have to distinguish between intentional act and accident in order to say accidents are not part removals. Is that necessary? As for parts missing: it looks useful to me (to be confirmed by those documenting archaeological objects), but it will then establish a norm for how a object should be or have been. This statue had a head (as documented in ...) or this statue belong to a type of objects that has heads (as documented by ...) All the best, Øyvind Am 16.10.2023 um 21:12 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>: Dear All, In the discussion about typed negative properties, I have the impression that a property: "misses part of type" may be utterly useful for finding archaeological object in a global search, such as the head or arms of a statue, characteristic elements of buildings etc. Admittedly, it poses the question where to stop the non-existence, and what missing parts would have a chance to be found. Would a part lost by accident be a part removal? Would that be an alternative way of documenting missing parts? Opinions? Best, Martin -- ------------------------------------ Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece Vox:+30(2810)391625 Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr<mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr> Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig
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