I think the discussion about getting new contributors is good and important.
Just one thought on a different aspect however: it seems many user issues come down to the default settings (about half of the top 10 on the site, and both bugs mentioned by Denis). Changing them has been tried and doesn't seem to work. Could some sort of settings profiles/themes help instead? I'm thinking something like an option to select the settings profile in the workspace selection dialog - out of the box there could simply be two options: 'built-in Eclipse settings' and 'Eclipse community settings' (which could be the most starred settings profile available on the marketplace or so). This could not only fix issues that make people angry, but on the positive side also introduce them to many awesome Eclipse features they didn't know about, and increase the feeling of community influence on how Eclipse behaves. Cheers, Fabian On 12.07.2013, at 18:25, Doug Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: > It is. And I'm sure there are hate sites for every tool people use. Eclipse > isn't unique that way. > > My point is that user experience is so important to our success, we need to > be sensitive to the issues our users are facing. There are a lot of such > issues marked WONTFIX, and CDT is as guilty of that as anyone. I'm just > wondering how we fix it. > > Doug. > > From: Denis Roy <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Cross project issues <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, 12 July, 2013 5:54 PM > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] FW: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New > comment on "Eclipse smells kind of dead"???. > > Actually, I think it is awesome feedback, since there are only a handful of > issues that seem to raise the anger levels. > > I was able to trace a few of the top items to some old bugs: > > File out of sync: > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228039 > > Line numbers on by default: > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191154 > > > Those bugs are fairly old and both are closed WONTFIX. It would be > interesting if they could be reopened for discussion. > > Denis > > > On 07/12/2013 11:31 AM, Doug Schaefer wrote: >> http://www.ihateeclipse.com ??? >> >> Pretty awesome feedback from our passionate user base. >> >> :D >> >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, 12 July, 2013 5:29 PM >> To: Doug Schaefer <[email protected]> >> Subject: Fw: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind >> of dead"???. >> >> >> >> From: Alex Lagarde >> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:25 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind of >> dead"???. >> >> Alex Lagarde has left a new comment on your post ""Eclipse smells kind of >> dead"???": >> >> Interesting post. Maybe even worst than bugzillas that get no answer are >> general complaints about Eclipse/Projects that never were raised as issues. >> That's why this Website, as painfull as it is, provides very interesting >> feedback http://www.ihateeclipse.com/ >> >> We may have to think about a better way for end-user to raise such >> "feelings" (maybe an amazon-like rating system which would allow to very >> quickly rate from 0 to 5 stars a feature or a project). >> >> >> >> Posted by Alex Lagarde to Doug on the Eclipse CDT at 4:25 PM GMT+1 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> [email protected]https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > -- > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
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