I agree. Let's figure out how to publicly and formally drop support for Java 5. Sun/Oracle discontinued public support in 2009!
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#J2SE_5.0_.28September_30.2 C_2004.29 J2SE 5.0 entered its end-of-public-updates period on April 8, 2008 updates are no longer available to the public as of November 3, 2009. Is this a Planning Council topic? Mike Milinkovich mike.milinkov...@eclipse.org +1.613.220.3223 From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Ed Willink Sent: September-03-13 9:24 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued? Hi I am doing my best to continue support for existing functionality, so in the absence of a clear Eclipse statement that Java 5 support is terminated, I feel I have to continue to keep close to 5. Guava changing to Java 6 was awkward. OSGI changing to Java 6 is very close to a mandatory downstream consequence. Can we please have a clear policy statement rather than a secretive creep. I don't mind changing to Java 6, it probably makes life easier. But I hate this are we 5 or 6 limbo? Regards Ed Willink On 03/09/2013 13:51, David M Williams wrote: I probably should have mentioned, there are several bugs we are still trying to work through, where the Tycho/Maven build picks a different "compiler level" than the way PDE used to it ... and not always in the way we intend, for example, <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=415116> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=415116 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=411419> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=411419 I am not sure if this is related to the issue you are seeing ... or if merely confirms yet another "unannounced change" ... but I don't think it changes the bottom line: If you want things different than they are, open a bug or comment on an existing one. If it is merely a matter that you don't really care, but you have to change your test scripts, then all I can say is "sorry". From: Ed Willink <mailto:e...@willink.me.uk> <e...@willink.me.uk> To: Cross project issues <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, Date: 09/03/2013 08:34 AM Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued? Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org _____ Hi Szymon Your list omits the 'culprit'. It is org.eclipse.osgi.util.NLS that is now Java 6 putting paid to all attempts at internationalization with Java 5. Regards Ed Willink On 02/09/2013 16:41, Szymon Ptaszkiewicz wrote: > See > <http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse#appendix > http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse#appendix > for the table of minimum EE per bundle. > > Szymon > > > > > From: David M Williams <mailto:david_willi...@us.ibm.com> <david_willi...@us.ibm.com> > To: Cross project issues <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> > Date: 2013-09-02 17:34 > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support > been discontinued? > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org > > > >> So it seems that the Platform no longer supports Java 5. > Yes and no. As a whole, such for whole Eclipse SDK, even Kepler (If not > Juno) said "Java 6 required", although there were always some bundles (and > combination of bundles) that supported lower VMs. > >> Is this intentional and an unannounced policy change? > Probably not announced well. It has been discussed at status meetings, and > various bugzillas, that some previous "1.4" or "1.5" bundles were moving to > "1.5" or "1.6", but I am not sure there is yet a comprehensive list of > those that have. (Other than looking in the manifests themselves). > > I think it's been assumed "no one cares about Java 1.5 any longer" ... so, > if anyone does (i.e. you have requirements or customers with requirements > for 1.5), then I suggest you open a bug on the specific use-case you need > to support on 1.5 and what bundle changes prevent that. I'm sure the > committers for those components would be willing to re-consider if it > impacts adopters. > > But, the default assumption for testing should be "1.6" ... would be my > personal advice. > > HTH > > > > > > From: Ed Willink <mailto:e...@willink.me.uk> <e...@willink.me.uk> > To: Cross project issues <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, > Date: 09/02/2013 11:02 AM > Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been > discontinued? > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org > > > > Hi > > Using a recent (post M1) platform I-build some of my unit tests now fail > with a NoClassDef found for Platform. > > Changing the launch configuration to force JVM 6 and the tests run fine. > > So it seems that the Platform no longer supports Java 5. > > Is this intentional and an unannounced policy change? > > Regards > > Ed Willink > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > <https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > <https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > <https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6630 - Release Date: 09/02/13 > > _______________________________________________ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org <https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev _______________________________________________ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev No virus found in this message. 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