Our N&N is compiled by the input of each committer (sub-project) directly 
into our news repo (
http://git.eclipse.org/c/www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news.git) or via Gerrit 
for contributors. Before we publish the milestone, someone from the team 
edits the document to bring it into a good and readable shape (e.g. 
rearrange items, fix typos, etc.).

I don't think you will get a nice N&N document for the user if everything 
is just generated.

Dani



From:   Wayne Beaton <wa...@eclipse.org>
To:     cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
Date:   02.02.2015 15:26
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the 
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I agree with Dani. Each project's N&N should be project-specific.

I only ever see the Platform/JDT N&N in web page form. How is this web 
page constructed? Is it just done by hand, or is it somehow automatically 
generated from some data source?

The ideal, I think, would be to have a common form for feature information 
that is maintained by each project based, perhaps, around the features 
that they provide. With something like this in place, we'd have a fighting 
chance of aggregating it in a meaningful/useful manner and keeping it 
up-to-date.

e.g. some kind of record with a title, html fragment with zero or more 
images, and a "since" tag that we can compare against the feature version 
to determine what features are new. We could use this to generate a 
complete feature list and a N&N list.

Maybe this is just an XML file that we keep with each feature.

Thoughts?

Wayne


On 02/02/15 05:35 AM, Daniel Megert wrote:
> I think the correct solution would be to extend the purpose of the 
Platform N&N to include newsitems from the EPP side. 

No, that is not the correct solution. The EPP/main download side can have 
and advertise a joint N&N. 

Dani 



From:        Lars Vogel <lars.vo...@vogella.com> 
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> 
Date:        02.02.2015 11:15 
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the 
release train 
Sent by:        cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 



Hi Marcel, 

I think the correct solution would be to extend the purpose of the 
Platform N&N to include newsitems from the EPP side. 

Best regards, Lars 

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Marcel Bruch <marcel.br...@codetrails.com
> wrote: 
Greetings cross-projects, 

I?d like to get your thoughts about a joint N&N page for Mars Milestones. 

The platform maintains a N&N page [1] for changes on the Platform/JDT/PDE. 
All press releases, blogs and tweets about new milestones are pointing to 
this page and as such it is the most prominent place to present new 
features, what?s new and upcoming in Eclipse. 

However, IMHO there are much more noteworthy things to talk about. For 
instance, the addition of the automated error reporting in all EPP 
packages is such a noteworthy item but it cannot be published on that page 
because it does not belong to the SDK. I guess many projects have 
interesting N&N as well. While larger projects with a community/ popular 
webpage will certainly write a blog post about their new features. Smaller 
ones with no prominent website or large community lack such a space. In 
addition, bloggers etc. will certainly not browse all project blogs to 
find all N&Ns.  

Thus I wonder whether we should have a joint N&N page for the whole 
release train where every participating project could put, say, up to 3 
items per Milestone release with a picture and a short paragraph (as the 
SDK already does). 

What do others think? 


Marcel 



P.S.: FWIW, every EPP package download page *has* a N&N link in the side 
menu where EPP packages can add their N&N links. However, it?s not used 
much and likely is not very popular (at least I assume that b/c I noticed 
it the very first time today). 

[1] https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.5/M5/ 


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