Since no response from Birt, I have disabled BIRT from the aggregation, 
for now (which required me to also disable MAT chart feature, for now, 
since depends on BIRT)  so that we can see who else might still depend on 
compatibility bundle. 

According to my local builds, I think PTP does? 

If so, please correct soon, please ... I'd like to know if there's any 
more, after that is fixed? 

Thanks! 




From:   David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:     Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, 
Date:   10/20/2015 03:02 PM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] ... runtime compatibility 
bundle ... and LDT ... and Neon M3
Sent by:        cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



OK, ready to try again? Since the LDT contribution has not changed, I have 
disabled it from the aggregation build, so that we can see who else still 
refers to the defunct compatibility runtime bundle.

According to my local builds, BIRT will be the next project to fail ... 
now that DTP has been fixed (thanks Konstantin, and others). 
[Correction

Please correct any failures as soon as possible. That is, don't wait until 
your +N day. You can always contribute your final content later, but build 
"breaks" should be corrected right away. 

Same goes for you, LDT team, though I know your "break" isn't obvious, and 
realize you have some "redesign" work to do to figure out how to deliver 
"just your code" (and not all dependencies too). 

Thanks all, 





From:        David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, 
Date:        09/30/2015 11:04 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DTP for Neon stream ... 
runtime.compatibility ... and LDT? ... and Neon M2
Sent by:        cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



OK, I give up. 

It appears some projects are not going to be able to react to the removal 
of runtime.compatibility bundle, for M2, so I have re-enabled the LDT 
contribution. (Bug 478009 and Bug 478330).
This will allow the aggregation build, at least, to complete, so that 
others can make progress. 

This won't help projects who have a direct dependancy on, say, DTP (which 
in turn as a dependency on runtime compatibility bundle) since they depend 
on it, but do not provide it. 
For those people, the only work around I know of is to "include" only that 
bundle from our M1 repository, or something similar. 
Less that ideal, but I'd like to push forward and see if we can get out 
some form of M2 that can be used to create a cleaner M3! 

Let me know if suggestions or alternative approaches. (And, FYI, it does 
not appear that extending the deadline a few days will help with the 
runtime compatibility issue, but, if anyone has been blocked due to this 
issue, and needs a few days to work around the problem, I think it 
reasonable to consider an extension of a few days ... if you make such a 
request, please be specific ... I'd hate to extend it to Monday instead of 
Friday (let's say) and then that still not be enough time.) 

Thanks, 




From:        David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, 
Date:        09/28/2015 08:47 PM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DTP for Neon stream ... 
runtime.compatibility ... and LDT? ... and Neon M2
Sent by:        cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



I hope everyone remembers that Neon M2 is this Friday ... and that means 
your Neon M2 contributions must be done by Wednesday. 

AND .. it seems, some have not yet reacted to the platform removing 
org.eclipse. runtime.compatibility bundle (Bug 394739). 

AND .. some have been "getting it automatically" from the current Sim. 
Release contributions, because Lua Development Tools (LDT) duplicates it 
(and many others) in their repository (Bug 478009). 

Since LDT has not updated their repo yet for Neon, I fear some may have of 
a false sense that "everything is ok".

Put more bluntly, we all know, some projects do not build against the 
latest version of their pre-reqs! And, we all know that some projects 
won't react until "the build fails". 

Therefore ... I am about to make the build fail for others, by removing 
LDT's massive contribution. 

If someone has a better suggestion, that would be good to hear, but I hope 
I am doing everyone a favor, by making the problem more apparent in the 
aggregation build. 

(And, greatest thanks to those of you who HAVE reacted to this change 
already ... thanks to all your release engineers!) 

Thank to you all, 






From:        David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:        Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, 
Date:        09/21/2015 08:09 PM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DTP for Neon stream ... and 
LDT?
Sent by:        cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



> A question regarding the aggregation build. I thought it was 
> designed to catch issues like this, but I don’t see any failures on 
Hudson.

I was wondering that too. :) So ... 

I looked in the log, at 
https://hudson.eclipse.org/simrel/job/simrel.neon.runaggregator.BUILD__CLEAN/111/consoleFull

and could see 

- mirroring artifact 
osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility,3.2.300.v20150423-0821

and then searching backwards in log, for "Mirroring artifacts from",
could see that the LDT project is (also) contributing that bundle, via 
their repository at 
.../download.eclipse.org/ldt/releases/stable/1.3

I hope that is a temporary condition, since (in this case) do not think 
the Platform would like others 
"extending the life" of something they are trying to end. But ... I am not 
sure. I think the next step 
is to hear from the LDT project. I have opened bug 478009 for this issue. 

I did also use b3 aggregator editor to search for others who might be 
contributing that bundle, and it appears there are no others. 
(And, appears that LDT contributes much more potentially problematic 
bundles, than just that one, since they duplicate a great deal 
of other's projects, for their "Eclipse product"). 










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