Ed, 

Thanks for bringing this "no maintenance, no new Orbit" issue to my 
attention. 

While the Planning Council does not like to "make" people do extra work 
they would not normally do, I believe it was the intent of one of our 
requirements [1] that the latest Orbit be consumed every update release -- 
if there has been a new Orbit "released". Most often there is not a new 
Orbit release, since we in Orbit do that only for significant issues. This 
time, it was only for the 'commons.collections' security bug, and a bad 
bug in Ant 1.9.4 that drove us to provide Ant 1.9.6. [2]. 

While I will not say you *have* to update and provide a new build, I would 
encourage you to, as well as anyone else who uses "commons.collections" 
since we don't want to "spread around" a package that has known security 
flaw in it. 

As far as I know, in most cases of installing and updating people will get 
the correct, fixed version of that bundle, but am not positive that is 
always true so I hate for it to be the available from any of our "most 
recent repositories" (Simultaneous Release or not) -- after all, the b3 
aggegator is including it for some reason -- so someone must say they 
require it? 

But I am also not the "security policeman" that will say that bundle must 
be expunged from all current downloads. (If I recall, the security issue 
only applied to specialized cases ... but, if you were running in that 
case, it was a bad security bug possibly leading to a malicious person 
"executing arbitrary commands". 

I have opened bug 487285 to investigate or discuss this issue further. [3] 
And,  I will put this on future Planning Council agendas to see if we can 
word that requirement [1] better so that all projects know better what is 
expected of them.

Thanks again, 

[1] 
https://wiki.eclipse.org/SimRel/Simultaneous_Release_Requirements#Re-use_and_share_common_third_party_code_.28partially_tested.29
[2] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/orbit-dev/msg04419.html
[3] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=487285






From:   Ed Willink <e...@willink.me.uk>
To:     cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 
Date:   02/04/2016 01:12 AM
Subject:        Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Ready for Mars.2 ?
Sent by:        cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org



Hi David

On 03/02/2016 22:29, David M Williams wrote:
- Every contribution file has changed since Mars.1. Also good. (i.e. no 
projects are just sleeping and forgot to update :) 

You might want to review your query. qvtd.b3aggrcon was last changed by me 
on 26 June, and by you on 14 July.

We are certainly not sleeping, and did not forget to update. Just working 
very hard to support the functionality required for graduation to 1.0.0.
And ... worst of all, IMHO, some "old" third party jars are still being 
used, which implies to me someone is not using the latest version of Orbit 
(R20151221205849). 
But if a project has no maintenance to contribute, I thought no 
rebuild/contribution was required and so of course an old Orbit would be 
in use. (I don't think that QVTd imposes tight bounds on Orbit 
contributions.)

    Regards

        Ed Willink_______________________________________________
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