Thanks Fred, latest will be great compared to fine before ;-) Current solution (redirect to root) is not fine. :-)
Frederic Gurr <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 9. Jan. 2020, 17:13: > Hi, > I wouldn't call this a fine link or good coverage. The link efers to an > Neon infocenter from 2016/2017. So it's completely outdated. > As stated in the bug, the goal is to have the /latest/ links in the Google > index and not content from random old versions. > > We will try to put redirects in place to avoid confusion and "dead ends". > > Regards, > > Fred > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 16:05 Lars Vogel, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just Googled for the Oomph Git setup tasks which resulted in this fine >> link: >> >> >> https://help.eclipse.org/neon/topic/org.eclipse.oomph.setup.doc/javadoc/org/eclipse/oomph/setup/git/GitCloneTask.html >> >> Clicking on it, brings me to: >> >> https://www.eclipse.org/documentation/ >> >> So currently it looks like we lost our good Google coverage of Eclipse >> help. >> >> Best regards, Lars >> >> P.S. will also add this to the bug >> >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 3:57 PM Jonah Graham <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Done https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=558301 >> > >> > Probably needs better component, please change component as you see fit. >> > ~~~ >> > Jonah Graham >> > Kichwa Coders >> > www.kichwacoders.com >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 09:49, Denis Roy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Jonah, >> >> >> >> That's a great point. I think we can do something smart here: >> >> >> >> When a user hits https://eclipse.org/documentation/ we could examine >> the referer, and add some text at the top of the page to indicate the user >> has requested older docs, with a suggested link to the same doc on the >> latest install. >> >> >> >> That will help newer docs rank on search engines, help de-list older >> docs, and still provide service to the user. >> >> >> >> We should also verify that we are sending a 301 Permanent redirect, >> not a 302 Temporary one. >> >> >> >> If you think this makes sense, I think next step is a bug. >> >> >> >> >> >> Denis >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2019-12-13 9:25 a.m., Jonah Graham wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Fred, >> >> >> >> I think it is great to get rid of the old documentation - indeed the >> other day I did a google search and didn't realize I was looking at an old >> version of the documentation. >> >> >> >> That leads me to my issue with removing - and I don't have a solution, >> just a concern. Googling or duckduckgoing many eclipse topics have >> help.eclipse.org/kepler in the results (some have neon). What is the >> effect on SEO of just removing kepler? Will all relevant search results >> from google just disappear making it harder to find information until >> google and the like re-rank the results higher? >> >> >> >> Almost all the results work if kepler is just replaced with 2019-09 >> (or 2019-12 or latest presumably). >> >> >> >> I see in the time that I have been writing the email that >> help.eclipse.org/kepler has disappeared - the effect that it is harder >> to find the results because the search within infocenter is not as good as >> google. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Jonah >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~ >> >> Jonah Graham >> >> Kichwa Coders >> >> www.kichwacoders.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 08:22, Frederic Gurr < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> To further streamline our services and reduce maintenance overhead we >> >>> will no longer host info centers at https://help.eclipse.org that are >> >>> older than two years (or 8 quarterly releases). >> >>> >> >>> For older releases people will be advised to run the infocenters >> locally >> >>> by downloading the corresponding Eclipse IDE (Eclipse SDK or EPP >> >>> package) from >> >>> * https://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/ or >> >>> * https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/ >> >>> >> >>> How to start or stop information center from command line: >> >>> * >> >>> >> https://help.eclipse.org/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.isv%2Fguide%2Fua_help_setup_infocenter.htm >> >>> >> >>> People trying to access old infocenter URLs will be forwarded to >> >>> https://www.eclipse.org/documentation >> >>> >> >>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Fred >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Frederic Gurr >> >>> Release Engineer | Eclipse Foundation Europe GmbH >> >>> >> >>> Annastr. 46, D-64673 Zwingenberg >> >>> Handelsregister: Darmstadt HRB 92821 >> >>> Managing Directors: Ralph Mueller, Mike Milinkovich, Gaël Blondelle >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >> unsubscribe from this list, visit >> >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >> unsubscribe from this list, visit >> >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or >> unsubscribe from this list, visit >> >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Eclipse Platform project co-lead >> CEO vogella GmbH >> >> Haindaalwisch 17a, 22395 Hamburg >> Amtsgericht Hamburg: HRB 127058 >> Geschäftsführer: Lars Vogel, Jennifer Nerlich de Vogel >> USt-IdNr.: DE284122352 >> Fax (040) 5247 6322, Email: [email protected], Web: >> http://www.vogella.com >> _______________________________________________ >> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >> from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
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