On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 5:58 PM Wayne Beaton <
[email protected]> wrote:

> - the bureaucracy
>>
>
> I assume that you mean IP due diligence. There should be no Eclipse
> Foundation bureaucracy required. All of the libraries in question have
> already been approved, so the project team can just start using them.
>
> Following the Eclipse Foundation's Board of Directors approval of our new
> IP Policy in October, Piggyback CQs are no longer required. I owe the
> community a much longer discussion about all of the changes. There is some
> discussion on by blog
> <https://waynebeaton.wordpress.com/2019/11/13/reviewing-third-party-content/>
> .
>
> You will still have to submit your IP Log for review, but only the next
> time that you actually have to do a release review. Note that changes made
> to the EDP in December 2018 make it so that you can do releases for an
> entire year following a successful release review (i.e., we no longer
> require a review for every single release).
>

Wayne, how does one maintain the IP log if not doing PB CQs ? It's an
honest question as not filing PB CQs will save me so much time.


>
> I hope that this knocks at least one thing off of the list (I understand
> that the other things on the list are harder
>
> HTH,
>
> Wayne
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 3:07 AM Christian Dietrich <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> we (Xtext) currently have no capacity to do
>>
>> - the bureaucracy
>> - analyze impacts on logging customization points in Xtext
>> - analyze who else uses what logging and how that change would affect
>> them and indirectly us
>>
>> Regards
>> Christian
>> Am 23.01.20 um 15:05 schrieb Ed Willink:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> If there is a conflict hazard then it already exists. Examining one of my
>> workspaces...
>>
>> Good (SLF4J) - jgit, m2e
>> Bad (LOG4J) - mwe, ocl, qvtd, xtend, xtext
>>
>> This is complete news to me. I continue to use log4j since it avoids
>> changing code styles that have been unchanged for many many years. Other
>> projects probably just copy prevailing practice.
>>
>> I presume changing is rather easy, and of no consequence to the exported
>> API, since the use of log4j is by import package.
>>
>> However without a commitment to change by Xtext, I would be reluctant to
>> change any Xtext-based project.
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>         Ed Willink
>> On 23/01/2020 13:09, Hickman, Steve (AdvTech) wrote:
>>
>> Log4j 1.x reached end of life in 2015. The documentation for it now
>> appears to have gone offline. There are some Eclipse projects (call them L1
>> projects) that currently use Log4j 1.x directly rather than SLF4J. That
>> means that any projects that depend on L1 projects cannot use Log4J 2.x
>> without risking dependency collisions from attempting to load multiple
>> versions of Log4J.
>>
>>
>>
>> SLF4J was created precisely to eliminate dependencies on specific logging
>> implementations.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is important that libraries like those that plug into Eclipse not
>> unintentionally force a specific logging implementation on their users.
>> Those library developers have no way of knowing – and probably no way of
>> satisfying – all the requirements of their various sets of users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Given that, it seems that Eclipse should make SLF4J the ‘official’
>> logging API for all Eclipse libraries.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Hickman*
>>
>> Software Architect
>>
>> *Honeywell* | Aerospace
>>
>> Office: 480-236-8367
>>
>>
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>> https://in.honeywell.com/sites/aero/ENG/advance-tech/crew-intf/Pages/crewhome.aspx
>>
>>
>>
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